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No need to blame Mobley for this one.... and some advice for posters

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Drewdog, Feb 5, 2003.

  1. Drewdog

    Drewdog Member

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    I watched only the second half of the game and saw Cat drop at least 5 or 6 passes down to Yao, so that argument can now finally end.

    Also, Cat kept us in the ball game (along with a big game from Mo T) with some clutch 3 pointers which helped slice the lead down and eventually get us within striking distance for a chance to win against the Cavs.

    Yep lets put him on the bench, or trade him..... great idea......

    :rolleyes:

    Here is a question for all of you doubters, haters, non-believers, and fair weather fans:

    How many times did you pull your hair out when we lost games in 94-95?? I didnt think we had a chance in hell from the 6th seed either.

    Patience is the key. Frustration is part of the experience. Growth is inevitible. Continue to be a fan. Just BELIEVE..... our future is bright.

    We are still learning how to win folks, and this is just part of the process.......

    Dont knock yourself silly over this loss.....
     
  2. heypartner

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    Stevie...please continue the fastbreak...no need to throw a 50 footer to Yao when he is first down....just go set up for a quick strike. umkay.

    Posey...2 free throws would have been nice.
     
  3. SmeggySmeg

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    drew you asking for something unpossible!!!!:(
     
  4. LiTtLeY1521

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    God...I've been patient.

    BUT LOSING TO THE CAVS...LORD!!!!!!!

    Well yeah. Can't blame Mobley on this one. He had a nice game overall and scored when we needed it. I saw him pass to Yao plenty of times. He scored 24 points. He took a lot of shots, but still had average field goal percentage.

    Mo Taylor was great...can't blame his for anything. Maybe for not DEMANDING THE BALL enough.

    FRANCIS...Francis is my man...but too many turnovers. Golly...HE ONLY TOOK 13 SHOTS THOUGH? AMAZING! That's why he only had 16 points. AND...UH.....NO ASSISTS?!?!?


    The Rockets win when Yao scores over 15 points and has at least 3 blocks and as a team have at least A LOT OF ASSISTS and 8 blocks...today's an exception. SO OUR GAME PLAN should be GIVE IT TO YAO AND TAYLOR...AND PLAY DEFENSE.

    Can't blame Mobley though. He didn't do anything wrong today. We just missed free throws and allowed them to score too much. We actually shot better than them...but they took about 100 shots more than us.

    Do not trade Mobley!
     
  5. skymaster187

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    Actually that pass to Yao was not exactly all Steves fault, Yao could have showed more hustle.
    I have seen Yao not attempt to try to go for ball he could have easily reached before it went out of bounds.
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    I just want to say I still believe.


    We will make the playoffs. For this year I am not going to bash anymore. I promise.

    I trust Rudy.
    And I trust all our players.


    Believe it BABY!
     
  7. Baqui99

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    Comparing this team to the 94-95 team is doing that squad a serious injustice. That team played with heart and did whatever it took to win. Everyone knew their role. It was just a matter of getting everyone healthy. Oh, that was also the same year that we traded away our brute forward, OT, for Clyde Drexler on Valentine's Day.

    Imagine having paid money to watch that game in person. I would be humiliated, as should the players. I know that patience is important, but has this team improved since the beginning of the season? I don't think so.
     
  8. London'sBurning

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    Yea you can't blame Mobley for this one either. He got his points, but again within the offense. Posey this time was the one that ruined it for us. That 3-Pointer with 1:06 left was uncalled for, and of course the missed free throws. Why no trade Posey threads? He's not the scapegoat of the team obviously. I love Posey because he's just what the doctor ordered at the Small Forward position, but he bunked the game for us. Francis did as well for the attempted pass at Yao as well, but there were plays where we broke down before that, that could of pushed to a tie, or a win. I will say there was one play where Mobley took a shot that I didn't like in the 4th. He was cornered and took a fadeway with a man on him, and I think the Rox were only down by 3 at the point and went on their run. The Cavs scored on that play and it was a 5 point turn around. I'm not sure he's to blame for that one either though because the ball was dished to him with the shot clock winding down. All in all, it was a valiant effort, but again a few mental breakdowns that could of pushed the Rox in the lead, but in the end were simply mental breakdowns. I think the loss of Cato is starting to wear on the Rockets since he provides substantial play time breaks for Yao and knows how to crash the boards. He probably could of slowed Ilgauskas some tonight.
     
  9. windandsea

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    Cato played 18 minutes tonight and big Z got some easy points when Cato was on the floor.
     
  10. Vengeance

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    IMO, Mobley gets blamed too much for things. He's kindof the Rockets' whipping boy. No matter what, if anything bad happens, it gets laid entirely on him. I agree that it's just one bad loss out of many games and we still have a long way to go, but . . . the Cavaliers!!!

    I suppose I'm just really so embarassed and disappointed, but not too surprised at tonight's outcome. I mean, no way in HELL we should lose to teams like Memphis and Cleveland, but then again, maybe we aren't as good as we'd hoped . . .
     
  11. DreamWeaver

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    Nah, you mean Ming Dynasty does not start this season. :p
     
  12. London'sBurning

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    Must of been away from the T.V when he was playing. My mistake.
     
  13. Panda

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    The blame should be spreaded evenly, the part on Mobley is playing 40 minutes without a single assist.
     
  14. rockHEAD

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    hustle? are you kidding me? the pass didn't even get to yao, didn't even get near yao... yao's momentum had him going forward, he's supposed to stop his 7'-5" frame from going forward to back peddle for a sorry pass to begin with? that pass was no where near ming.

    i'm not buying the 'ming needs to hustle more' theory! :mad:

    i'm more along the lines of the 'guards need to learn to pass' theory...
     
  15. wiredog

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    But on the bright side (if there is one) at least he was trying to make a pass. Bad decision, yes, but it was a mistake I can live with. Did it cost the game? Probably. But it wasn't like he went up in the air with nowhere to go to throw it away.(like he did few times before)
     
  16. wiredog

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    You're a freaking moron. He threw it over three defenders. if Yao was 17'6", yeah he could have snagged that pass.
     
  17. carayip

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    Agreed. At least it showed that Steve's willing to pass to his supposed hated teammate Yao, in crunch time as well. Big deal. Bad decision yes, but really couldn't fault his attitude and trust in Yao. We shouldn't bash him or he would never pass to Yao or any other teammate in the clutch again!!
     
  18. Sane

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    Rockets03,

    I'm with you. I believe. Trade, no trade, shake up, no shake up, I'm with it.

    Rockets will make the playoffs.

    I got burned the last time I didn't believe. Won't fall for that one again.
     
  19. The Voice of Reason

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    basing a judgement on a box score it totally wrong. geting Zero assists does not mean he was not making pases. it meant that those that he passes to either, A. dribble at least once before shooting therefore nullifying any assist statistic, or B. miss the shot when they do not dribble.

    cuttino had a ton of passes that led to points, but none became statistical assists.

    always keep this in mind when looking at a box score.

    anyone who ever passes to Moochie will likely never get an assist. kind of the same with cto as he likes to drible once beore going up. and steve likes to dribble before shooting alot, but he is pretty good at just shooting too. cuttio rarely ever dribbles after reciving a pass out at the arch he just shoots. but when he does dribble he usually dribbles for a while
     
  20. London'sBurning

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    In Hockey, the players who pass the puck twice to a leading goal get an assist. Just imagine how many assists a game a team would have if they implemented that idea in basketball. All thost kickout passes the dominant centers have would probably average a triple double a game :D
     

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