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Nikki Haley for President

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  1. NewRoxFan

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    I think JV was referring to the primary where she would give up points. And yes, republicans are sexist (Democrats have already had a woman as their presidential nominee and a woman as their (current) vice president).
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes. In those polls one year out, it does appear to be the case. She would fare better than Trump for sure.
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    No, I was thinking of the general, though it applies to the primary too. I think voters, on the margin, are influenced by subconscious bias for more 'powerful' traits, with maleness being one of them. Every woman is going to have a little extra hurdle to cross in order to win.
     
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    good.

    Wall Street Eyes Nikki Haley as Trump Spoiler
    Republican donors aim to boost Haley while Biden backers fret about his chances

    Big hitters on Wall Street are lining up to support Nikki Haley’s long-shot bid to snatch the 2024 Republican presidential nomination from Donald Trump.

    “There’s a desperate, desperate hunt for anybody but Trump,” said one of the roughly 30 senior executives The Wall Street Journal spoke with to gauge the mood of the finance set roughly a year ahead of the election.

    While Wall Street’s die-hard Democrats are sticking with President Biden, many other financiers have been casting about for an alternative to Trump, the former president they see as too unpredictable among other concerns. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s clash with Walt Disney and stilted public appearances hurt his standing, while Virginia Democrats’ statewide victories this month quashed the idea of Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin (and former Carlyle Group co-CEO) jumping into the race.


    Attention on Haley, a former South Carolina governor and Trump’s former U.N. ambassador, intensified after Sen. Tim Scott’s (R., S.C.) unexpected exit Sunday. Former Trump adviser Gary Cohn and UBS
    banker Mike Santini co-hosted a Haley fundraiser Tuesday at Cohn’s Upper East Side apartment in Manhattan. Roughly 30 guests including Aryeh Bourkoff, the founder of investment bank LionTree, paid $10,000 apiece to attend.

    Haley fielded questions on topics including trade relations, economic policy and abortion. She won plaudits at last week’s Republican debate for finessing her stance on the abortion issue and calling for consensus.

    Other Haley events in New York are set for Dec. 3 and Dec. 4, with the latter being organized by Santini, litigator Eric Levine and others, some of whom have ties to Elliott Management, the $60 billion hedge fund founded by Republican donor Paul Singer. They include Campbell Brown, the

    Meta Platforms executive and wife of Elliott public affairs chief Dan Senor, and Terry Kassel, a longtime Haley supporter who is Elliott’s human-resources head and Singer’s girlfriend. (Singer himself is still entertaining supporting candidates including Haley, DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.)


    Haley, 51 years old, who already has high-profile admirers including outgoing Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman, has been busy this week charming others including JPMorgan Chase’s Jamie Dimon and BlackRock’s Larry Fink. The conversation between Haley and Dimon was earlier reported by Axios.


    Dimon, who leans Democratic, has told people Haley seems to understand the business world and could get things done. That tacit endorsement is rare for Wall Street’s elder statesman, as he doesn’t typically signal support for candidates. Fink saw Haley on Tuesday at a meet-and-greet with other executives.

    Ken Griffin, the founder of investing giant Citadel and one of the biggest Republican donors, meanwhile, is flirting with throwing his support behind Haley, telling Bloomberg this week he was “actively contemplating” it. Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman is also still considering his options.

    While Haley trails Trump by a wide margin and still sits behind DeSantis in the latest national polls, her supporters expect her numbers to rise by the Iowa presidential caucuses in January. An Iowa Poll released in late October showed Haley catching DeSantis for second place among Republicans in that state, and a new CNN survey of New Hampshire has her alone in second place there behind Trump.

    “If she passes DeSantis, she’s the backup,” said one financier who supports her. Given Trump’s legal troubles, “it’s not completely crazy that she could ultimately win.”


    https://www.wsj.com/politics/electi...haley-as-trump-spoiler-1b3144f3?mod=wknd_pos1
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    Just in case you thought haley would be any different...

     
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    Hopefully she is the nominee.
     
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    Debate Performances Fuel Haley’s Rise in GOP Nomination Race
    New WSJ poll shows the former U.N. ambassador, the focus of attention on Wednesday night’s stage, has edged into second place behind Trump

    Deft yet serious, quick-witted yet substantive, Nikki Haley’s debate performances are feats of political athleticism that few can match. Surrounded by men trying to shout and tear her down, she skewers foes, exhibiting a specifically female form of calm yet gleeful aggression. She floats like a fighter jet and stings like a missile.

    And based on that she has surged—into a distant second place in a Republican primary that barely deserves to be called a contest. Former President Donald Trump continues to lead the GOP field nationally, with a dominating 59% of the vote, according to a new Wall Street Journal poll, while Haley, the former United Nations ambassador and South Carolina governor, has edged into second with 15%, virtually tying Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s 14%. No other candidate breaks double digits.

    Trump’s support in the poll, conducted Nov. 29-Dec. 4, was unchanged from the Journal’s poll four months ago, while Haley has risen seven points and DeSantis has slipped slightly. Nevertheless, to the extent there has been movement in the lower ranks, Haley has been the surprise story of the primary, and she has done it on the strength of her debate performances. The trend continued in the fourth debate Wednesday night, as the four major remaining non-Trump candidates—Haley, DeSantis, businessman Vivek Ramaswamy and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie—faced off on an obscure cable network.

    If viewers didn’t already know Haley has become the one to beat, her rivals’ barrage of attacks on her made that abundantly clear. Ramaswamy called her unscrupulous and a “fascist.” DeSantis called her ineffective. Christie called her inconsistent.

    “I love all the attention, fellas,” Haley said with a tight smile. “Thank you for that.”

    The debates have established Haley as a hard-edged national-security hawk. She continued in that vein Wednesday, warning of the interconnectedness of the threats America faces from Iran, Russia and China. She criticized Trump, albeit far more gingerly than Christie, saying the former president was weak on China, drove up the national debt and represented “chaos.” She brushed off rivals’ attacks on her Wall Street donors: “They’re just jealous.” And she knew when to rise above the fray: Given time to answer a particularly unhinged Ramaswamy rant, in which he compared her to “a woke Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light ad,” Haley sniffed, “It’s not worth my time to respond to him.”

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/electi...tial-primary-outlook-a6060f4d?mod=djem10point
     
  10. ROCKSS

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    I actually agree with you, far from perfect (as are ALL politicians) but she "seems" the least maga besides Chris C and while I like Chris C better, I don't think he has a shot. I hope the gop will wake up and return to the party of law and order but alas, it isn't gonna happen while folks are still suckling at the teet of trump
     
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    Right now I couldn't vote GOP period, the right wing Heritage Foundation has already given the next admin marching orders on the quick path to fascism, the real kind not the one some on here throw around for good measure. Take a read if you will...

    https://www.project2025.org/
     
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    I know I've posted this before but just another quick reminder...

     
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    No, they're still very different. Policy on abortion or immigration might be the same, but policy on abusing office and undermining elections would be very different.
     
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    It would be nice if they returned to being the party of law and order they once were...70 years ago.
     
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    you could run AOC and get massive support of Democrats. she's too McCain for me.
     
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    You like your authoritarians to have some street cred right? A few state and federal charges before they earn your vote, eh?
     
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    lol taking speaking fees and going from a net negative to a millionaire after “defense contracting”

    The American people have learned from the Dick Cheneys and don’t need another piece of **** that will never fight the wars she profits from
     
  18. basso

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    big get for the Haley campaign.


     
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    She is still angling for the vice presidency under trump... no surprise here.

     
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