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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rookie34, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Rookie34

    Rookie34 Member

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    Draft room: Texans
    Monday, April 20, 2009 | 4:58 PM

    Mike Mayock and Brian Billick discuss draft needs for the Jaguars & Texans.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80fe2509

    I think Vontea Davis would be nice, but I think he is more a pick as from nr. 20. So I would love Malcom Jenkins ... :D
     
  2. RocketJedi

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    I must say I would not be happy with a Davis pick. I would hope we trade down if it came down to that.
     
  3. JayZ750

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    If we could trade down 5-10 spots, pick up another 3rd in this draft, and get Davis, wouldn't that be good. I don't follow NFL mocks and NFL draft value enough, but it seems like it makes sense to me.

    If the extra pick we got was for next year, though, I'd be less inclined to make that move, as this seems to be a pivotal year for the Texans (though they said that at the beginning of last year, too, and if 10-6 missing the playoffs or making and losing in round 1 this year, it would be nice to have that extra pick come 2010 draft time...)
     
  4. RocketJedi

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    I would just as soon avoid him altogether.
     
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    Agreed...I'm not that high on Davis. He's got all the intangibles you want in a CB; size, speed, strenght, etc...But he wasn't a shutdown corner and played inconsistent in college, he also apparently had attitude problems as well.

    I'm really hoping Jenkins falls to us at #15. If not, I hope we trade down and grab an extra pick or two.
     
  6. H-Town Info

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    The Texans dont have him on their board I bet
     
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    I'm really hoping for Jenkins, too. I have been for quite some time.


    If not him, then I hope we trade down and pick up an extra player. We could trade down and get a late second or early third, we can get an extra good, quality reciever, or we could pick a pretty high quality power back.


    BTW, I saw a mock that had Percy Harvin going in the third round. I think it was from Walter Football. Now, I know Harvin has some reefer issues, but what's up with this drop?
     
  8. Chilly_Pete

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    If Jenkins does fall to us at 15, do we play him at cornerback or convert him to safety?
     
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    Therein lies the other question....

    It'd almost be better to convert him to a safety while using him as Dunta insurance....
     
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    Either way it would be a nice problem to have. :)
     
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    I don't think Harvin will drop that low, I think he'll go mid-2nd round. He was already being projected as a mid to low first rounder before the positive drug test, but I think that's a pretty big red flag for teams. I don't think teams are that worried about the fact that he smokes pot, a ton of players do, but the decision making (or lack of) on his part just shows terrible judgment.
     
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    Don Banks at SI seems to think that the Saints prefer Cushing and Wells over Jenkins. If thats the case we have a serious shot at having Jenkins available for us at #15.

    Then if Sintim fell to us at #46....well, that would be nice.
     
  13. Dubious

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    Jenkins will probably be at least a solid player but as a tweener he may not be a big impact guy; not really fast enough as a CB not a great deal better than what we have at safety. Picking a safety at 15 you really would like to get a Polamalu (16th pick) or Mike Brown ( #8 pick). Bob Sanders was #44 :eek:

    At 15 maybe you miss out on the elite guys.

    Maybe the BPA at 15 is Wells or Moreno, then we could trade down, into the 20's for a top CB and get another pick to use on an OLB depth guy.

    I'm from the Jimmy Johnson school of drafting. Draft lots of players and let the cream rise to the top.
     
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    If a team "hit" on every one of its first round draft choices, at the end of a decade those players would only represent, on average, about 22% of their roster.
     
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    more speculation on possible trade down partners:

    Josh Freeman won't make it to the Jets at No. 17

    Kansas State quarterback Josh Freeman is pegged by mock drafts across the Internet to be going to the Jets with the 17th pick. It isn't difficult to understand why. Freeman has legitimate talent.

    Rex Ryan, like many new coaches, would love to make a splash on draft day. Ryan comes from Baltimore, which received great play from rookie quarterback Joe Flacco, likely making Ryan more comfortable with the idea of starting a first-year passer than most.

    And the Jets, who feature Kellen Clemens, Brett Ratliff and Erik Ainge, are in clear need of more talent at the position. Of the three, only Clemens has thrown an NFL regular-season pass, and he has a less than inspiring 5-to-11 career touchdown-to-interception ratio.

    For all of these reasons the Jets will almost certainly want to take Freeman, which is why he won't be available to them. The drop in talent after Matt Stafford, Sanchez and Freeman is so steep that any team wanting Freeman knows it will have to pick him ahead of the Jets. The 49ers (picking 10th), Broncos (12th) and Redskins (13th) are all possibilities to take the rifle-armed junior. If they pass there's a strong possibility another team trades to jump ahead of the Jets.

    Expect plenty of trades, but none within top 10

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/11663399/rss

    The #15 could be very valuable in this scenario for someone who wants to move ahead of the Jets. But I'm still betting on a swap down for Wells or Moreno.
     
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    I think we take Jenkins or trade down.
     
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    Josh Freeman is going to be such a huge bust it isn't even funny.
     
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    I wouldn't mind trading out of the first round provided we get a 1st rounder next year in return plus a second rounder this year.

    Next years draft class will be sick!!!
     
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    I think he's going a be a great player for us like Nate Clements, Charles Woodson, Chris Gamble upside. Worst case for upside is Antrell Rolle.

    If we do get Jenkins, I'll try to trade Dunta. I think he doesn't want to be here anymore.
     
  20. Chilly_Pete

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    John McClain's article on Jenkins

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6389731.html

    In the weeks leading up to this weekend’s draft, few players have been scrutinized more than Ohio State cornerback Malcolm Jenkins — all because he ran a slow time in the 40-yard dash at the scouting combine.

    Jenkins, 6-0, 204 pounds, was electronically timed in 4.56. There were immediate reports he would have to move to free safety in the NFL because he lacked the stop-watch speed scouts demand in corners.

    “I’m more comfortable at corner,” said Jenkins, who grew up in New Jersey and selected Ohio State over Rutgers. “That’s where I’ve been playing the last four years.”

    Give game films a look
    At Ohio State’s pro day, some scouts timed Jenkins in the high 4.4s. They say an accurate time would be 4.51.

    “If you look at my film, I might not look as fast as some other guys, but I make plays,” he said. “It’s funny to me because you play and they have four years of film on you, and you’re playing corner and you think you’re doing well, and none of that means anything.

    “But everybody has something to prove.”

    If Jenkins could put on tape of an Ohio State game for NFL scouts, what would he point out to them?

    “I do what every other corner does,” he said. “If you put on a film of a guy that’s 5-10, 185, I’m doing the same things he’s doing at my size.

    “In the (NFL), you’ve got receivers that are bigger and more physical, and that’s what you need — a guy that can do it all. With my size and speed, it’s something rare that you don’t find a lot.”

    If Jenkins had come out after his junior year, he would have been the first defensive back drafted. He stayed in school and won the Jim Thorpe Award as the nation’s top defensive back.

    Now Jenkins is still expected to be the first defensive back selected.

    “I gained a lot,” he said about returning for his senior year. “Last year, everybody was talking top 15 to late first round. My stock definitely rose a little bit. I made a smart decision.”

    Jenkins could end up with the New Orleans Saints, who have the 14th pick and need a cornerback and a free safety.

    “I’m a big corner,” Jenkins said. “Whenever you have a guy as big as I am, the question is always is he going to move up (to safety) at the next level? Don’t get me wrong. I want to do whatever it is I have to do to play. Playing safety is something I can definitely do. My preferred position would be corner.”

    Passing on corners early
    For the fourth consecutive year, no cornerback is expected to be drafted among the top 10 picks. The last time a corner was taken among the top 10 was 2005. Pacman Jones (Titans), Antrel Rolle (Cardinals) and Carlos Rogers (Redskins) were selected among the top nine picks.

    Jenkins is selling himself as a corner to anyone who’ll listen.

    “At corner, you have to be more technique sound,” he said. “You don’t have as many responsibilities.

    “At safety, it’s more knowing where you need to be on the field and where you’ve got to fit. You can just sit back and roam. Your technique doesn’t have to be as sharp. You’ve got to know more about the defense and where you need to help other people and what the offense is coming out in.”
     

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