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Next Texan - Rogers to Forgo Sr Year

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by TheHorns, Nov 25, 2002.

  1. TheHorns

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    Could this be the next Texan? Or would you go for a RB?

    Rogers to forgo senior season for draft
    ESPN.com news services

    EAST LANSING, Mich. -- Junior receiver Charles Rogers, whose star has burned brightest during an otherwise forgettable Michigan State football season, confirmed Sunday he is making himself available for the NFL draft in April.

    Rogers will make the decision official at the Spartans' football awards ceremony tonight on campus, the Detroit Free Press reported in Monday's editions.

    Rogers' decision is not surprising; most analysts believe he would be a high first-round draft choice, possibly a top-five selection, in the draft. He is a finalist for the Biletnikoff Award given to the nation's best receiver. The winner will be announced Dec. 12 on ESPN.

    Michigan State's season of tumult included the firing of head coach Bobby Williams earlier this month and quarterback Jeff Smoker's revelation of a substance abuse problem tha led to his suspension from the team.

    The Spartans started the season ranked 17th in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and started 2-0, only to finish 4-8 -- their worst season since 1991 -- following a 61-7 loss to Penn State on Saturday.

    According to the Free Press, perhaps Rogers' biggest reason for turning to the draft is that he has two children -- Charnae, 5, and Charvze, 3 -- to support.

    Rogers will leave Michigan State as one of its most heralded receivers. This season, he broke his own record for receptions in a season with 68. He also had 13 touchdowns and 1,351 receiving yards -- 119 yards short of the record he set last year.

    Rogers established NCAA and Big Ten records for consecutive games with a touchdown catch with 13, surpassing the likes of Randy Moss and Desmond Howard in the process. His 1,470 receiving yards in 2001 was the best single-season total of any Spartans receiver.

     
  2. Refman

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    If he is still on the board...taking Rogers is a no brainer.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Rogers is certainly a stud playmaker. But we HAVE to make sure Carr doesn't get sacked so much next season! Whether we do that by free agency or through the draft I think that's our top priority. I get the impression that with a top notch o-line, wide receivers and rb's are a dime a dozen given our quarterback's abilities.
     
  4. rezdawg

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    I would be very disappointed if he is available and we do not take him. We can get an OL later in the draft.


    We gotta take him.
     
  5. Drewdog

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    I agree. Draft the best possible offensive lineman. I think Gaffney, Bradford, and Miller will develop into a good trio of recievers.

    I really like what I see out of Johnathan Wells. When the line does get a block (which isnt often) he seems to read the holes really well.
     
  6. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I think we need a play maker. Rogers seems good to me.
     
  7. Jeff

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    This team's two most glaring weaknesses have been the O-line and the secondary, specifically the safeties. Secondary can be addressed in later rounds or through free agency. But, the O-line has to be a priority.

    Wells will be better when he has a line to block for him and Lord only knows what Carr will be able to do when he isn't running for his life the whole time.
     
  8. BanginScrew

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    Good o-linemen can always be found in free agency. A playmaker of Rogers caliber can't unless you're willing to give 2 first round picks for a Franchise tagged player. I would also say that taking Rogers is a no brainer.
     
  9. Refman

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    Good O linemen can be easily found in the second round...and glory be we have TWO second round picks. You HAVE to get a playmaking WR to go with Carr's throwing abilities.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    WADR to everyone ripping the line, it's been bad, yes, but our receivers are terrible and their inability to separate is causing a lot of the problems, too, as is carr's inability to feel the rush. he seems to lack the natural sixth sense so many of the great QBs have... and it's not as if he hasn't had ample practice.

    that said -- throw a dart; the team needs an upgrade at every position, save QB, K and P.
     
  11. kidrock8

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    I wouldn't be totally opposed to the Texans trading their #1 pick for a David Boston. I think Boston will be available after AZ places the franchise tag on him.

    Though I would really like to add an OT, and just part ways with Boselli.
     
  12. Lil Francis

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    I doubt if the Texans will do that since Boston blew out his knee. Just imagine if we could sign Boston and still draft Charlie Rogers. We would be the AFC version of the St Louis Rams:D
     
  13. Jared Novak

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    Speaking of St. Louis, there happens to be an OL by the name of Orlando Pace, some of you might remember him by his college nickname,"The Pancake Man", because he always smothered his opponent. He has been a great LT, the position crucial to Carr getting sacked on a regular basis. He may command alot, but I think he definitely worth going after. The Texans need a guy to come in and have an immediate impact, not another rookie to come in and take time to learn the system. If thats the case you might as well leave Weary, Pitts, and Graham on the O-line, at least they'll know the system. In Pace you get a pro-bowler in the mold of Tony Boselli. Before you ask whats the point of all this, Pace is a free-agent at season's end. Add to the mix that there is no outstanding OL in college football like in years past.

    The Texans will most likely have a top five pick (as of right now, if they continue to do better, it may move to a top ten pick). It is still kind of early to judge who will go where, because scouts and GM's put so much faith in the combine. Thats where we can be sure of who will go #1. It wasn't until this time last year that Carr was considered going in the first round, and they were saying mid-to-late first round, much less #1.

    I have to agree with the assesment that we need a playmaking receiver. If Rogers is on the board, I hope the Texans decide to take him. He is a smart player who is grounded in his lifestyle (a responsible, moral adult, a father and knows his responsibilities and whose family is the most important thing in his life), much the same way as David Carr. Rogers wants to be the best, and after reading about all this in an issue of TSN, I hope this guy ends up a Texan.

    With what little Charlie Casserly has said about the draft, he has stated that his scouts have been looking at guys that have not even been considered top ten guys in next year's draft. That being said that would indicate that the Texans are contemplating trading down in the first round. However, its still early and theres plenty of time left to evaluate who will be taken where.
     
  14. BanginScrew

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    There are going to be two other Offensive Tackles in free agency this offseason besides Orlando Pace.

    This is expected to be Flozell Adams, and Soloman Page's last year in Dallas. Both will be Unrestricted Free Agents this offseason. Dallas was originally expecting both players to have big years since they are both in their contract years but both have not been able to adapt to the zone blocking scheme Coslet has installed. Therefore both could be gone at season's end. Houston likes to have thier o-linemen do more man to man blocking. Both Flozell "The Hotel" Adams, and Page excell in man to man blocking. Also considering they are having bad years they could be had cheap. Page also plays guard.
     
  15. DVauthrin

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    Ric,

    Considering you just mentioned Carr lacks the instinct of avoiding the rush(which a lot of great qb's have) and his play this year, what kind of player do you see him becoming? Not doubting David at all, but you know your football, and I just wanted your opinion on DC.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    oh, i think he's going to be special, and not in a short bus kind of way, either.

    and "lacks" was probably too strong a term to use -- he's certainly proven to be an adept, if not dangerous (for a QB) scrambler, but it frustrates me when a player is closing in on him and he seems oblivious to the pressure. but that's really my only complaint with him to this point, and i think it's something he can work on. i still think it's somewhat an inate quality, but certainly not beyond the realm of something he can learn.

    but in terms of his arm, it's amazing; he throws away from danger, makes few mistakes (under the circumstances), can hit the deep ball as well as the underneath and i doubt there's a player on that team that wouldn't follow him into hell after they've watched what he's had to endure this year. once he gets some competent receivers around him, a better offensive line and a running game to help open up the field.... special.
     
  17. MadMax

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    on the flip side...if he were too concerned with the pressure and had happy feet, we'd have much bigger problems as Texan fans. he seems to have no problem stepping up in the pocket. i do think he's holding the ball too long, but what rookie QB doesn't do that? i think that's also a product of having receivers who have a hard time breaking open.
     
  18. Lil Francis

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    I had no idea Carr could move that well. Only thing they talked about in college was his arm. He has 3 games this year of 50yds or more so he can move if he has to. He is a much better scrambler than Harrington.
     
  19. drapg

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    Picking Rogers is a no-brainer. Solid offensive linemen can be found throughout the draft. There is no Orlando Pace in this draft that deserves top 5 consideration. Pick Rogers and focus the rest of the top picks on linemen.
     
  20. Phillyrocket

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    Rogers will be the first non QB taken and will probably not be available when we pick. There is no O-lineman worthy of a top 5 pick, our other glaring weakness safety should never be chosen that early in the draft, it's just not good value. Bank on it guys, barring a trade, we will go DT first round and I'm hoping for Jimmy Kennedy. Yeah our defense is pretty good, but our run defense sucks, and where would we be if Payne or Walker got hurt? We have no depth there and Kennedy would be a great addition.
     

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