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Newt Gingrich: Tea Party Turning Into The 'Militant' Wing Of GOP

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  1. mc mark

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    WOW!!! :eek:

    via TPM --

    Newt Gingrich said that he expects the Tea Party movement to evolve into "the militant wing of the Republican Party" at a speaking engagement in Pennsylvania on Wednesday night, the York Dispatch reports.

    Gingrich described the Tea Party's sentiment towards Washington as "natural" and argued that people are entitled to the "pursuit of happiness."

    The York Dispatch reports on Gingrich's remarks regarding the future of the conservative movement:

    Gingrich said the movement is a "natural expression of frustration with Republicans and anger at Democrats," which is "more likely to end up as the militant wing of the Republican Party" than as an independent or third party.
     
  2. rhadamanthus

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    Militant wing? For real? Paging basso - now you can b**** about sedition...
     
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    militant

    Militant, as a noun, is used as a term for warriors who do not belong to an established government military organization. It can also be used as a euphemism for the word terrorist.[1]
     
  4. durvasa

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    Calling a group "militant" doesn't necessarily mean they are violent. I think he means that they will be an active, politically mobilized faction of the Republican party that will protest against any "bi-partisan" concessions the GOP may be tempted to make.
     
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  5. rhadamanthus

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    I'm going to start a nazi wing of the republican Party. Of course, calling a group "nazi" doesn't necessarily mean they are violent, racist, facists. I think it means that they will be an active, politically mobilized faction of the Republican party that will protest against any "bi-partisan" concessions the GOP may be tempted to make.
     
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    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/militancy

    [rquoter]
    mil·i·tant   [mil-i-tuhnt] Show IPA
    –adjective
    <font style="background-color:yellow">1. vigorously active and aggressive, esp. in support of a cause: militant reformers.</font>
    2. engaged in warfare; fighting.[/rquoter]
     
  7. vlaurelio

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    maybe he has hepatitis C too
     
  8. rhadamanthus

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    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nazi

    [rquoter]
    Na·zi   [naht-see, nat-] Show IPA noun,plural-zis, adjective
    –noun
    1.
    a member of the National socialist German Workers' party of Germany, which in 1933, under Adolf Hitler, seized political control of the country, suppressing all opposition and establishing a dictatorship over all cultural, economic, and political activities of the people, and promulgated belief in the supremacy of Hitler as Führer, aggressive anti-Semitism, the natural supremacy of the German people, and the establishment of Germany by superior force as a dominant world power. The party was officially abolished in 1945 at the conclusion of World War II.
    2.
    (often lowercase) a person elsewhere who holds similar views.
    <font style="background-color:yellow">3.
    Sometimes Offensive. (often lowercase) a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to control a specified activity, practice, etc.: a jazz nazi who disdains other forms of music; tobacco nazis trying to ban smoking.</font>
    –adjective
    4.
    of or pertaining to the Nazis.
    [/rquoter]
     
  9. durvasa

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    That definition does not apply when you are using the word "Nazi" in a political context.

    Maybe I'm missing your point.

    Edit: I misspoke ... but I still don't understand your point. Do you think Gingrich literally meant to cast the Tea Party as a violent/terroristic faction of the Republican party? That's not what he meant.
     
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    sounds to me like a bunch of freedom fighting commies. Destroy them all!
     
  11. rhadamanthus

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    Say what? I guess I missed the asterisk next to the definition that said:
    Only if applied in a non-political context.

    If we can have tobacco nazis (per the definition, mind you), there can definitely be tea party nazis.

    And my point? They used the term MILITANT. Alternative definitions notwithstanding, anyone with half a brain already has a preconceived notion as to what that usually means when used.
     
  12. rhadamanthus

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    Naturally. But it does make him an enormous buffoon.

    Wait a minute, I guess he fits right in with the teabaggers...
     
  13. Ashes

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    You don't think he had a reason for using the world "militant"? Right.
     
  14. durvasa

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    Sure. He views fervent, grassroots activism as a form of militancy.
     
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    Oh definitely. I could really care less about the whole Tea Party thing, but it's pretty clear "militant" is chosen to push people's buttons and infer something deeper. Claiming, "Oh but it means this too" is just silly. There are countless synonyms and better words for "vigorously active and aggressive" that don't infer violence. It's a tactful choice of words to get under the skin of the other side and to make ignorant readers/listeners think of violence.
     
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    Listen, I am all for the TEA Party, but they need to tone down the buzz words. Just stick with the simple game plan of conservative ideals and the American public will support them. This "extra" stuff is playing into the hands of the Progressives.

    The goal is not to preach to the choir, but to bring more and more Independents back into the conservative party.

    I don't believe Newt is implying violence and I agree 100% with what Newt is trying to say.

    IMHO, the American majority agrees with the TEA Party ideology, but will be turned off with talk like this. A lot of moderates don't understand what is being said by words like "militant wing"--it sounds too much like Hamas talk.

    The Progressives will jump on any buzz words by the TEA Party and immediately start the propaganda game to twist it to imply violence by anyone associated with them.

    They learned their lessons form the 60's (Bill Aires and Malcolm X types) that violence and hateful rhetoric doesn't get government or hearts and minds to change.

    The only way to really change government is to implement the proven strategy of Gandhi and MLK.



    Politics is all about impressions and image. It's how ACORN was taken down. The TEA Party now has America's attention and needs to adjust their rhetoric accordingly. Again, stick with the KISS principal.
     
  17. durvasa

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    I think you're reading too much into it. Who's skin is he trying to get under, and why?
     
  18. Batman Jones

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    This is much ado about nothing. The word militant is like the word radical and it is commonly used in ways that aren't associated with violence.
     
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    The Tea Party is antithesis to everything Ghandi and MLK stood for.

    The civil rights leaders stood on the truth and compassion for all, not just their own people. They never used lies to get what they wanted. They never distorted the truth. They did not demonize their enemies.

    The tea party is nothing like them and it's an insult to millions of people to even bring them up in the same paragraph.
     
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  20. mc mark

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    I see what you did there.
     

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