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New wind installations last year offset ghg emissions ~8 million cars

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  1. Invisible Fan

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    Wind power in the US can be as cheap or cheaper than coal power plants. Hopefully more industries enter this field to keep up w/ the increase demand.

    http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5258
    2006 Wind Installations Offset More Than 40 Million Tons of CO2
    Worldwatch Institute – July 25, 2007 – 6:00pm
    WASHINGTON, D.C.—The 15,200 megawatts of new wind turbines installed worldwide last year will generate enough clean electricity annually to offset the carbon dioxide emissions of 23 average-sized U.S. coal-fired power plants, according to a new Vital Signs Update from the Worldwatch Institute.[1] The 43 million tons of carbon dioxide displaced in 2006 is equivalent to the emissions of 7,200 megawatts of coal-fired power plants, or nearly 8 million passenger cars.

    Global wind power capacity increased almost 26 percent in 2006, exceeding 74,200 megawatts by year’s end. Global investment in wind power was roughly $22 billion in 2006, and in Europe and North America, the power industry added more capacity in wind than it did in coal and nuclear combined. The global market for wind equipment has risen 74 percent in the past two years, leading to long backorders for wind turbine equipment in much of the world.

    "Wind power is on track to soon play a major role in reducing fossil fuel dependence and slowing the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere," according to Worldwatch Senior Researcher Janet Sawin. "Already, the 43 million tons of carbon dioxide displaced by the new wind plants installed last year equaled more than 5 percent of the year’s growth in global emissions. If the wind market quadruples over the next nine years—a highly plausible scenario—wind power could be reducing global emissions growth by 20 percent in 2015."

    Today, Germany, Spain, and the United States generate nearly 60 percent of the world’s wind power. But the industry is shifting quickly from its European and North American roots to a new center of gravity in the booming energy markets of Asia.

    In 2006, India was the third largest wind turbine installer and China took the fifth spot, thanks to a 170-percent increase in new wind power installations over the previous year. More than 50 nations now tap the wind to produce electricity, and 13 have more than 1,000 megawatts of wind capacity installed.

    As efforts to reduce carbon dioxide emissions accelerate around the globe, dozens of countries are working to add or strengthen laws that support the development of wind power and other forms of renewable energy. Rapid growth is expected in the next few years in several countries, including Australia, Brazil, Canada, France, and Portugal.

    “China and the United States will compete for leadership of the global wind industry in the years ahead,” says Sawin. “Although the U.S. industry got a 20-year head start, the Chinese are gaining ground rapidly. Whichever nation wins, it is encouraging to see the world’s top two coal burners fighting for the top spot in wind energy.”


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    Calculations are based on U.S. data: average capacity factor for new wind power capacity (34%, from American Wind Energy Association); average capacity factor for coal-fired power plants (72%, from North American Electric Reliability Council - NAERC); average CO2 emissions from U.S. coal-fired power plants (0.95 kg/kWh, from U.S. Energy Information Administration); and average coal-fired power plant capacity (318 megawatts, from NAERC).
     
  2. tigermission1

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    As I've said before, it won't be any ONE thing that will help us live a more environment-friendly lifestyle, but a combination of alternatives. In some cases, utilizing wind and solar energy will make economic sense; in others, nuclear energy might be the smartest way to go, may be hydrogen or natural gas, or some form of biodegradable fuel.

    Eventually, the goal should be to make oil just one source of energy that we can utilize, but not the primary one.

    I think we will eventually get there, and I don't think it will take as long as many are predicting it will...
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    The technology is already available to provide good alternatives. I think people are looking at 80% efficient solar cells and fuel cells to project when we can become fully sustainable. Another crucial source of energy in the near future will be biologically active fuels that are processed from our waste. I don't like corn ethanol or any derivative that uses our food supply because the supply and cost fluctuates and the social interests behind them aren't necessarily well intentioned.

    Just because it's available doesn't mean that it's cheap, works well with the current infrastructure, or even popular (some claim the wind farms uglify the landscape). It'll be those hurdles and not the time spent on some mythical man on the moon discovery that will delay the eventual change.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    The problem with wind will always be the intermittancy of it. You can never count on getting your power from a wind farm, so there will always have to be enough backup power from coal/gas/nuclear sources available to cover it in case the wind stops blowing.

    And the power cannot be stored in case the wind blows when we do not need the power.

    I was reading a discussion on this and someone's quote caught the problem of it- "The true cost of wind generated electricicty is being disguised by the availability of the very generators it is supposed to replace which I find somewhat ironic. "

    But in small amounts it does help back down dirtier units, which helps.
     
  5. Refman

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    I was theorizing a few weeks ago with my law partner that we need a car engine that will run on ammonia. Ammonia is the byproduct when you boil human urine.

    What a timely concept I had. :D
     
  6. NewYorker

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    Imagine...

    "honey, could you fill up the pissmobile?"
     
  7. StupidMoniker

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    Is there any reason not to install solar panels on nearly every building? Would it be feasible to add a wind turbine on top of skyscrapers? These seem like things the government could put some tax revenues toward that would actually benefit Americans in general, instead of all the crap that only benefits certain segments of the population. Everyone breaths air and most have electricity bills.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    Wind is a total waste of time. As mentioned, the wind doesn't blow all the time, so wind power cannot serve baseload needs. Second, wind turbines are hideous and the public will resist their mass installations across our landscapes. Tax breaks are propping up the wind power industry today in the US. Wind power as a percentage of the total electrical generation grid is a gnat on an elephant's azz.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    A lot of the technology for renewable non-polluting energy is already out there. In addition to wind and solar we can make ethanol out of things like prairie grasses that require far less water and resources than corn and sequester carbon.

    IMO we should be looking at developing power based on three things:
    1. Renewable
    2. Non polluting
    3. Local

    The technology for power sources that meet those three criteria is already available.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    That's true that wind and solar are intermittent and the storage is the problem but again we already have the technology to store that energy. Hydrogen to power fuel cells is a problematic power source due to the energy it takes to crack water to get the hydrogen. What hydrogen can be though is a storage medium for things like solar and wind. Electricity generated by those sources is used to crack water and the hydrogen stored. Later when the power is needed hydrogen is used to generate electricity in fuel cells.

    Fuel cell automobiles are still likely decades away but I don't see anything problematic with building fuel cell power plants and feeding the electricity they generate into our current grid.
     
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    With all the innovations in semiconducting plastics and other organics, I think it will eventually be feasible to have a type of paint or plastic coating on buildings that converts light into energy.
     
  12. DonkeyMagic

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    well i wouldnt say its a waste of time but of course its not "the solution" its but it is a viable alternative for limited areas. (west texas has a few small towns that get a nice chunk from wind).

    on the otherhand...think of the birds!!!!
     
  13. NewYorker

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    Just to put things in perspective, ONE nuclear power plant can generate over 350,000 megawatts.

    That's means one plant in China that's built beats the global output of wind power FIVE times over
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    I agree.

    There's been proposals to kinetically store energy through use of flywheels with new materials that would cheapen through mass adoption. The efficiency of those suckers are over 80%. With power plants, they can be used to store energy during the night where the demand is lower and compensate for energy spikes during the day.

    Combine these with an intermittent energy source, and small towns would not need to be connected to our lumbering energy grid.

    Again, the problems these techs have are mostly caused by our 100 yr old infrastructure that is in serious need of upgrading, w/ or w/o new forms of energy generation.
     
  15. JuanValdez

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    I recently heard about a new company called Citrus Energy that will make cellulosic ethanol from orange peels. They'll build their plant in the middle of one of the big Florida orange groves. I thought that was kinda cool.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    They should put some of these in Washington, there is enough wind power there to energize the whole planet.
     

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