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New Starting Lineup

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rikesh316, Nov 29, 2004.

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  1. rikesh316

    rikesh316 Member

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    C=Yao
    PF=Scott Padgett
    SF=T-Mac
    SG=JJ
    PG=Bob Sura

    Scott Padgett deserves to play more since Mo and Juwan haven't done squat. Padgett could space the floor and give Yao and T-Mac a little more room to there thing. He ain't physical but its not like Mo is. Sura may not be a true pg, but he sure gets a lot of assists and plays tough defense. He also gives T-Mac another playmaker who could create his own shot. He also could rebound which I think we miss with Steve gone. I also like Andre Barett as a spark of the bench because this guy is fast and plays hard.
     
  2. ROCKET RY

    ROCKET RY Member

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    i agree 100%
     
  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    there was a quote somewhere on this bbs that said :

    from one rox exec - "when you put soft next to soft, you get extra soft."

    reffering to yao teaming with mo this year.


    if padgett were to get most of the minutes at the 4, we would be putting soft next to extra soft to combine for some kind of supreme softness.
     
  4. tslee98

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    Padgett isn't extra soft. He's a scraper. He'll get in there and mix it up, kind of like Boki blocking Karl Malone in the playoffs last year. But I think this lineup makes sense. Barrett and Mo could offer some firepower off the bench. At least until we deal for a real PF.
     
  5. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Padgett's the type of player who is best utilized coming off the bench. I think he'd lose a lot of his effectiveness in a starting role. He's been providing a nice spark off the bench, I see no reason to change one of the only things that's been working for us, honestly.
     
  6. Relativist

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    That lineup makes sense to me. Padgett's range opens things up more for Sura to penetrate. In terms of rebounding, Padgett's as good as any our PFs (with the possible exception of Spoon). Let Mo return to being our 6th man off the bench.
     
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    whats Scott been doing for us off the bench? We have a losing record and been getting punked by crappy teams.

    I like the idea of starting Padgett he brings hustle and a solid outside shot. He rebounds better than MoT and JHoward and he will track down loose balls.

    Having Sura / Padgett in the starting rotation brings hustle and toughness..

    Sura/Padgett are scrappers they might not be the biggest but they dont mind mixing it up. Mot might be more effective off the bench...

    J
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    LOL

    Its true though.


    What makes any of you guys think Padgett's a better rebounder?
     
  9. tim562

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    I agree, Mo T is used to coming off the bench. Do it

    Also, a little but of hustle never hurt either
     
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    Yao
    Mutombo
    Nachbar
    T-Mac
    Sura


    Ohhhhh Yeahhhhhhh.

    2-3 Zone on D.

    Mutumbo on low post, Yao at the top of the key, weakside cutters. Yao and Mutumbo crashing the boards over everyone's back, Sura running the floor with T-Mac and Nachbar on the wings, Yao on the 2ndary break filling the lanes.

    Bench:
    JJ
    Mo
    Padge
    AB
    Weatherspoon

    Championship baby!!!!
     
    #10 Kim, Nov 29, 2004
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    Seems like some people just had a wet dream that Scott can rebound and they wake up believing in it. It has no basis in fact whatsoever.

    I like Padgett's hard nose attitude and a little shooting but just watch how he was abused by Nene and Camby in just a few minutes. If he put in major minutes as starter, we'll be in deep caca.
     
  12. Yaomania345

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    Is this true or just what you think it should be. I think Howard should start and Mo should be traded for whatever we can get. Pagett and CW should share the mins at backup depending on the opponent.
     
  13. tinman

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    Why should Howard be starting? Please explain and back it up with some stats (this years). I know he should be starting in the NBDL, but not for the Rockets.
    Did you know that Juwan had Dnp last game?
     
  14. wireonfire

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=630&avg=48
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=351&avg=48
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=837&avg=48
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=896&avg=48

    Rebounds per 48 mins

    Padgett 13.2 (this season) 10.7 (career)
    Howard 8.5 9.6
    Taylor 9.7 8.8
    Spoon 12.3 11.9

    You can see Padgett is a better rebounder than Howard and Taylor, and about equal to Spoon.

    BTW, all four guys would foul out if playing 48mins.
     
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    If you start Sura, who's a poor perimeter shooter, you need someone to space the floor with 3 point range besides Jackson (McGrady's not a great long range shooter either). Padgett is an obvious choice. This team is in desperate need of an offensive system that "fits".
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    let's reserve he per 48 minute stats for people who play more than 12.7 minutes a game for their career. They tend to be skewed.
     
  17. MrRolo

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    Padgett isn't that far off or could be an even BETTER rebounder than MoT and JH. padgett averages half the Minutes per game that MoT does and roughly half the rebounds per game as well. Who would you say hustles more game to game? MoT or Padgett? Rebounding is a hustlers job. I predict if we start Padgett at the 4, and he plays around 20-25 mins per game he could give us 5+ rpg, thats real close to what MoT gives us on a good day. But Padgett has what MoT doesnt, the hustlers mentality, the 3pt accuracy, and giving us another really good scoring option off the bench in MoT or J.Howard.
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    Another Lineup I wish we could experiment with is:

    Sura, T-mac, Padgett, MoT, Yao. That would be our tallest lineup short of playing Yao and Mutumbo together. That lineup would also let JJ come off the bench with JH playing the PF pos. and we basically have the starting lineup we had during preseason if t-mac can play 35-40mins a game.
    Starting Lineup:
    Sura
    Tmac
    Padgett
    MoT
    Yao

    Secondary (Majority minutes in 2nd quarter)
    Lue/Barrett
    Tmac/JJ
    JJ
    JH
    Dike
     
  18. wireonfire

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    People, Sura was a great rebounder last season with the hawks, 8.3 in 35mins. Hopefully he'll put up Francis kind number in boards.
     
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    We cant just put someone into the starting line-up just because of one good game. We first have to give him more minutes and see if he can be more consistant.
    As much as i like to see that starting line-up, the team needs to first try to see if he can do that on a regular bases.

    BTW- Why is everyone forgetting BOKI and his THREES. He is still one of the leaders in 3-point field goal %
     
  20. Yaomania345

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    Is this offical or just personal thoughts on what it should be. Howard adds an inside game that Padgett dosent have. Padgett also hustels and is good on the perimiter but gets raped inside.
     

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