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New Orlando GM Interview - Talks about Francis & McGrady

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Deuce, Jun 23, 2004.

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  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Interesting info!

    http://www.nba.com/magic/news/Weisbrod_PreDraft_Comments-112413-66.html

    Where do you think Tracy is going to end up?
    “I know because of the magnitude of the deal and the magnitude of him as a player it is a big rush to people to try and conclude where he is going to be, but all those options are still open. He could still be here, and obviously he could be traded.”

    Could a deal with Tracy happen before the draft?
    “Well I think the draft will happen first, because if we do trade Tracy I don’t think there is any chance of that happening before the draft. We certainly would have a good idea as to what our options are, what we could conceivably do with Tracy before we go into the draft, but there are a lot of pieces that go into it. You might take players back in that deal that you have some of them going back out in other deals, or you’re keeping those players but you’re doing so with a mind for what other deals you’re going to do. That becomes the more intricate part of any Tracy scenario that I guess isn’t as apparent on the surface – what players go back in a potential Tracy deal, what players you make sure don’t go back because you have them in other deals will fit into the puzzle. There are obviously a lot of variables with that, just based on the fact that his salary number is so high and any deal you do with him can include or exclude a lot of other players on both sides.”

    What kinds of things are you doing to enhance the possibility of Tracy’s return?
    “I don’t know that we’re necessarily doing anything extra to make that a possibility. The anxiousness over the whole Tracy thing makes you feel like he is a free agent now, and certainly he is under contract for us for next year, so it takes a proactive decision on our part to trade him. If we decide not to make that proactive decision, or we put some pieces together with the draft or some of our other deals that we are most comfortable to fill that final piece with him in it, then obviously that would be one of our options.”

    There are still options out there for you in regards to Tracy?
    “Yeah. I don’t really read the papers or follow the media, but I’ve just heard because of all the GM’s that are calling in that it has been reported or the assumption is out there that it is done, or Houston is the team. That is certainly not the case. We are still weighing all of our options.”

    Does the fact that Steve Francis not wanting to come here weigh into the deal?
    “No, that is not a major factor in it at all. I think, after taking a couple calls from Steve’s people, that his main issue is frustration with Houston over how he has perceived they handled it or commitments they made to him in the past. His emotion about the situation, his emotion about leaving Houston, it’s not about coming here. He doesn’t have any aversion to coming to Orlando, from what I understand, he has an aversion to leaving Houston, based on everything he has been through with them and some of his commitments are understanding as to what they told him his future was there.     Obviously I’m not aware of any of those things because I don’t know anything about the nature of his relationship with Houston leading up to this. But it was unfortunate that the kid was put in that position because he is asked all these questions as if there was some deal immediately pending and that he was in it, and that wasn’t fair to him. That certainly wasn’t the case.”

    How complex is the puzzle and figuring out what to do with Tracy?
    “It’s really complex because you can do a Tracy deal that is just Tracy for a bunch of players and nothing else. You can do a deal that has a bunch of pieces from us going out and then you put that against what are you going to get back in the draft, what other deals. Ironically, a lot of my work in the last two days has been about deals that have had nothing to do with Tracy and nothing to do with the draft, because you have got to shore some of those pieces up to have a better idea of what pieces are going to plug in to whatever you do with Tracy. Then you either have to protect those contracts to do those other deals and make sure they’re not in the Tracy deal, or in some instances there might be contracts you need to make sure get in the Tracy deal so that they are out of the way to create the room for some of your other deals. That is the most complicated part of it when you’re building a team, you can’t look at any deal in its own right. It all ultimately comes together.”

    Outside of Houston, how many other teams have piqued your interest?
    I would say that right now, drawing everything up on the board, and reevaluating, reevaluating, and reevaluating, there are probably – and we haven’t flushed everything out yet or necessarily had enough conversation to take each of those scenarios to its conclusion to make a decision on it – but I would say there are at least seven teams that are still under consideration.
     
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  2. snowmt01

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    Feel bad for Steve

    According to Orlando's GM:
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    Does the fact that Steve Francis not wanting to come here weigh into the deal?

    ?No, that is not a major factor in it at all. I think, after taking a couple calls from Steve?s people, that his main issue is frustration with Houston over how he has perceived they handled it or commitments they made to him in the past. His emotion about the situation, his emotion about leaving Houston, it?s not about coming here. He doesn?t have any aversion to coming to Orlando, from what I understand, he has an aversion to leaving Houston, based on everything he has been through with them and some of his commitments are understanding as to what they told him his future was there. Obviously I?m not aware of any of those things because I don?t know anything about the nature of his relationship with Houston leading up to this. But it was unfortunate that the kid was put in that position because he is asked all these questions as if there was some deal immediately pending and that he was in it, and that wasn?t fair to him. That certainly wasn?t the case.?
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    Steve is not the problem because Orlando will weigh the offers anyway.
    We all know Steve is emotional and loves this team. In the past he has
    worked his ass off to get us back to the playoffs. Now because of misleading
    media report fans call him a whining b****.

    I hope the trade would go through. And if Steve will come back next year
    a Magic, I hope fans give him the deserved standing-ovation.
     
    #2 snowmt01, Jun 23, 2004
  3. codell

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    Link??
     
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  4. DaDakota

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    HECK YES !!!

    I will give him an ovation, as his turovers will now become Rocket assists.

    :)

    DD
     
    #4 DaDakota, Jun 23, 2004
  5. codell

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    BTW, if i take this correctly, is Orlando's GM saying that no deal was ever imminent???? :confused:

    If so, someone is lying here...........either CD, Steve's agent or the Orlando GM...........
     
    #5 codell, Jun 23, 2004
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    ESPN Magic boards.
    Weisbord's quote

    Very long.


     
    #6 snowmt01, Jun 23, 2004
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    This is is exactly what I posted earlier, minus the quotes, what Francis doesn't like is leaving Houston, not going to Orlando.
     
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  8. snowmt01

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    If anything, the rookie GM is a smart dumbass. You won't do a trade like that.
     
    #8 snowmt01, Jun 23, 2004
  9. Aruba77

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    This guy is a real *******. Trying to insinuate that we screwed Steve over, and that they are still waying their options. This really puts us in a tough position. Are they trying to piss us off?
     
    #9 Aruba77, Jun 23, 2004
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    next time we play the magic I expect us to destroy them
     
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  11. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Well, FINALLY we get SOME information here! It's like pulling teeth!

    From Weisbrod's interview it appears that the deal wasnt nearly as close as has been reported! That sucks! Looks like they are still weighing all of their options.

    And now it DOES look like a deal wont go down until AFTER the draft. Perhaps that is that 3rd team scenario that has been talked about. Or perhaps draft picks are involved in any McGrady deals (perhaps from the Suns).

    I do however like what he said about Francis. Seems like he is going OUT OF HIS WAY to say good things about him. To smooth out the situation. That's a good sign as it looks like he is trying to put a good spin on for the Orlando Media. He wouldn't do that if Houston wasnt SERIOUSLY in contention here.
     
    #11 Deuce, Jun 23, 2004
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Perhaps the Orlando GM put it out there to get better offers. Maybe this is the way they do things in the NHL.
     
    #12 Mr. Clutch, Jun 23, 2004
  13. Aruba77

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    Deuce,
    I see your point, but don't you think it reflects badly on the Rockets organization if the Magic GM says they are still taking offers, and that Steve was promised a future in Houston and we screwed him over. Sounds to me like he's making us look bad to give himself more options.
     
    #13 Aruba77, Jun 23, 2004
  14. Cohen

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    Wesibrod is just trying to play his cards. Not a big deal.

    No way in hell there's 7 other realistic opportunities there. Until T-Mac agrees to an extension elsewhere, there are ZERO other comparable opportunites.

    As for how fans feel about this:

    Vote: T-Mac & Yao, the Dynamic Duo?

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    SportsNation

    Thank you for voting. See below for the results from across SportsNation.

    Your responses in bold text below.

    1) ESPN Insider Chad Ford says the following proposals may be on the table for the Orlando Magic. If you were the Magic, which package would you prefer in exchange for Tracy McGrady?

    62.4% Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato (Rockets)

    15.7% Corey Maggette, Chris Wilcox and the No. 4 pick (Clippers)

    11.6% Shawn Marion, Casey Jacobsen and the No. 7 pick (Suns)

    10.4% Jonathan Bender, Al Harrington and Jeff Foster (Pacers)


    2) If you were McGrady, which team would you want to play for?

    46.8% Houston Rockets

    37.7% Indiana Pacers

    6.6% Phoenix Suns

    4.6% Los Angeles Clippers

    4.3% Orlando Magic


    3) Would the T-Mac for Francis and Mobley trade be a good deal for the Rockets?

    59.6% Yes, because they'd be adding one of the top players in the game.

    16.6% No, because they'd be giving up more than they'd be getting.

    12.2% No, because McGrady needs a lot of shots and doesn't play D.

    11.6% Yes, because Francis and Mobley shoot too much.


    4) Would this be a good deal for the Magic?

    38.5% Yes, because McGrady's contract situation is a looming issue.

    29.9% Yes, because they'd be getting more than they'd be giving up.

    18.9% No, because Francis and Mobley aren't leading them anywhere.

    12.8% No, because they'd be giving up one of the NBA's best players.


    5) Which ''small-big'' combo would you want for next season?

    32.6% Tracy McGrady & Yao Ming

    32.1% Kobe Bryant & Shaquille O'Neal

    10.8% Tony Parker & Tim Duncan

    8.3% Sam Cassell & Kevin Garnett

    7.1% Richard Hamilton & Ben Wallace

    4.0% Ron Artest & Jermaine O'Neal

    2.7% LeBron James & Carlos Boozer

    2.5% Steve Nash & Dirk Nowitzki


    6) If Kobe or Shaq leaves the Lakers, and McGrady joins the Rockets, who would be the favorites in the Western Conference?

    31.8% Minnesota Timberwolves

    31.1% San Antonio Spurs

    18.4% Houston Rockets

    7.7% Sacramento Kings

    6.4% Dallas Mavericks

    3.5% Los Angeles Lakers

    1.1% Memphis Grizzlies


    Total Votes: 65,021





    http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=781
     
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  15. Cohen

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    And for his new All-Star. Very astute of you.
     
    #15 Cohen, Jun 23, 2004
  16. snowmt01

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    Now I hope CD screw the rookie GM. Pull out the trade at the last minute and
    take back our boys.
    Screw the Magic.
     
    #16 snowmt01, Jun 23, 2004
  17. AGBee

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    Only seven other teams? So we still have a chance!
     
    #17 AGBee, Jun 23, 2004
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    i think weisbrod is spinning SF's comments to minimize the PR nightmare. he is going to do the deal. he is being sneaky about it, trying to ddrive up the price and do spin control at the same time..

    there is a lot of press saying that orlando is not getting enough in the rockets deal. since he fully intends to do the deal, he wants to make it look like it is the best deal there is . . . so he has to come out and say we're taking our time and exploring all options.

    Bird screwed him when he came out and said that Indy's deal was better.

    When it's all said and done, Tmac still will want to play here only and Weisbrod will do the trade . . . but only after damage control.

    If what he says is true, then the Rockets management saying that they believe the deal is near completion (to the public and SF's agents) is pure bull . . . and i don't believe that.
     
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  19. codell

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    If CD promised Steve that he would always be a Rocket and was untradeable, then shame on CD for putting the franchise in a bind like that.

    If Steve and his agents believed that, then shame on them for being so naive.
     
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  20. Cohen

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    CD won't ever do that.

    It's never an ego thing for him. He has the patience to wait-out rookie GMs and their games.
     
    #20 Cohen, Jun 23, 2004
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