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New Faces from Old Places: Marquese Chriss

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Zen Tabak, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. Zen Tabak

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    Hopefully not Stromile Swift 2.0. At least he'll get a chance to prove his worth.
     
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    Thank. Definitely deserves its own thread. Got buried in the Anderson Trade thread.

    Copying what I posted there.

    It's really disheartening to read he got suspended for refusing to do conditioning work.

    I'm convinced a lot of these Top 10 pick busts (especially bigs) are due to the player largely not caring to improve. Some, like Chriss, won't even put in gym work necessary for a professional level of condition. That shlt got him suspended by the team last year. Imagine if you won't work out like the other players, and that was a Draft Combine discovery, you are falling into 2nd Round if not the entire draft. But players can keep that a secret at age 19 and land top picks on raw athleticism alone.

    They had it really easy rising above the crowd (literally and figuratively) in high school and college, and didn't have to work at it much. Then, when they turn lazy ways -- with flashes of athletic eye-candy -- into a huge rookie scale deal, they just coast on their $15m+ deals and figure that's all they need or want in life. And if they want more money, they can then further land $1m per year deal after deal in Europe and China, to cash in further on their lazy, uninterested-in-working-hard ways.

    What really stands out for these athletic bigs who don't care to put in the work is the ones who blow their huge Team Option years from their rookie scale contracts. Chriss got his $3.2m Option year picked up, but looks like he will not get his $4m Option picked up ... but he still cashed $10m regardless.

    Bottomline: a lot of kids don't care enough, and their goals end at those huge rookie-scale deal. We blame mgmt and coaching too much sometimes for lack of development, which just entitles the lazy athletes with more excuses to coast on.​
     
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    From the article

    Biggest Strength: Athletically can do anything he wants on the court.

    Biggest Weakness: Basketball

    I laughed at this,.....but at the same time I was like uhhhhhhh.....Morey I trust you but man this kid seems like a project.
     
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    It's quite telling that Stromile Swift faked his way to $43m earnings in 8 years for little work. That would be ~$100m in today's dollars.

    That doesn't happen anymore.

    That's one good thing about the NBA deemphasizing bigs, to allow hard-working small ball players to actually compete --against the Chosen-One High Pick Busts -- and improve the game. And the lazy asses like the Thomas Robinsons aren't getting any 2nd contacts, because bigs aren't gold anymore. And even the Nerlens Noel's and Okafurs, who try sometimes, get forced to sign minimum deals as the 2nd contract, whereas the small-ball, high-motor, hard-workers who love the game like Montrezl got $6m per on their 2nd contracts.

    Unfortunately, many signs point to Chriss being yet another kid who doesn't care.
     
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    I have suspicions that the Rockets don't view Chriss as a player, and more of a contract.

    Wouldn't be surpised to see him given away ASAP to save on the tax bill.
     
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    Huh, so he's the Anti-Capela.
     
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    So Earl Watson took the fall for believing in him early on.

    The latter name is a dwertmare itself.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yikes. Sounds like he has much growing up to do. Hopefully with the leaders the Rockets has from the coaching to the players it helps Chriss mature.

    As others have said, it’s seems odd to not have announced the players involved in the RA trade. So maybe Chriss never makes it to camp due to a trade. Guess we will see.
     
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    Marquese Chriss never really wanted to be a basketball player. He wanted to be a football player. Further he has never worked hard either.

    I get that he is light on his feet, long and can jump..... but so what.

    If he doesn't but his but, he will need to look for a new line of work.
     
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    I guess the hope is that he's a late bloomer like Whiteside?
     
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    The LT seems to be the only reason for getting rid of RA.
     
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    Should probably preface my lazy-talk above (which was mainly aimed at Stromile and Nerlens), with that maybe Chriss is an uncoordinated dork who can't ever learn basketball, beyond jumping.

    But that means he's a true bust ... at least the Lazy talk means someone might be able to get through to him, that life is more than his $14m rookie-scale contract, and following Capela is hard, but fun and worth it.
     
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    They want that non guaranteed contract....... they can use it to add a player in a big or small trade.
     
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    Is it too soon to start missing Ryan Anderson?
     
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    Keep in mind, In Whiteside terms, we are still in his scrub era for quite awhile. Whiteside bloomed at Age 25. Waiting 5 more years for Chriss to get it like Whiteside means some other team will reap those years, not the Rockets.
     
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    Nimo that’s like saying you miss Brock
     
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    Also worth noting that Whiteside never really figured it out. He merely conned people into thinking he did and is back to bad habits.
     
  19. Nimo

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    Well Tom Savage came close
     
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    After reading the last paragraph, make sure to send him the link to this thread. Kyle Lowry Call of Duty 2.0 payoff.
     

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