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New Church Building

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by MadMax, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. MadMax

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    Not D&D religion discussion....just sharing this because it's my church and something I'm really excited about:

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/religion/7342878.html

    Ecclesia provides service for 'the least of these'
    By KATE SHELLNUTT Copyright 2010 Houston Chronicle

    Ecclesia Church has been waiting.

    For more than three years, it has been waiting to find the right place to expand its ministry and better fit its growing congregation of more than 1,500 young adults, families, grandparents and homeless people.

    Its members have been waiting to raise enough money, about $250,000, to afford the down payment on another building. They've been waiting to sort through paperwork, contracts, codes and costs. Finally, on Wednesday, the church bought a beat-up First Ward warehouse to become a new facility for worship and community outreach.

    Ecclesia's closing date fell in the middle of another period of waiting: Advent, when Christians prepare to celebrate the birth of Jesus, who they believe humbly entered the world to become their Savior.

    During the weeks leading up to Christmas, it's this message of Christ's redemption that drives church activity, such as Christmas-cookie bake sales to support Mission Year ministry teams and a special wine-tasting event that brought in $11,000 for clean-water projects, part of Ecclesia's annual Advent Conspiracy fundraising. Even buying the new building is seen as a way to live out the gospel.

    The $1.7 million property sits just north of downtown, in between city-owned buildings, an Amtrak depot and abandoned houses the church will raze to create green space.

    "That's what we're made to do: tear down crack houses and places of darkness and make them into places of light," Pastor Chris Seay said. "The most exciting part has been to see the kingdom of God, to see it going forth on a greater scale. It's very much the same mission" as when Ecclesia began 11 years ago.

    The church's existing building, a sanctuary/art gallery/coffee shop on Taft in Montrose, holds five crowded weekend services and has been a place for the community, especially artists and the homeless, to gather outside of worship.

    "It places itself in the midst of homelessness, and it's very important for the new building, too. When they were looking for a new building, that was a priority," said Laura Pettibon, 23, who has attended Ecclesia for a year and half. "It has such a focus on 'the least of these.' "

    Church leaders hope to carry over the same themes of art and hospitality while incorporating a culinary element to the new location. They want to include a pay-what-you-can restaurant, where homeless people can eat for next to nothing and diners who aren't in need can spend a few bucks extra.

    A new waiting period begins as Ecclesia starts planning for how the new space will be renovated.

    On Sunday, against the soft glow of strings of Christmas lights and an Advent wreath, Seay announced the closing date to a cheering congregation. They'd looked at hundreds of buildings and had been under contract on the 1100 Elder site since August. "You're going to love this place," he said.

    The building was once the arson and training center for the Houston Fire Department. It's an old, empty warehouse with lots of work to be done as cheaply as possible, including installing air conditioning and restrooms.

    "This is literally fish and loaves," Seay said, referencing the New Testament story of Jesus' miraculously feeding thousands.

    Ecclesia is looking to partner with contractors and put its members to work immediately, sorting materials, power-washing, taking down Sheetrock and chipping away tile.

    "With this new facility, we don't want to go into so much debt," said John Starr, a church elder. "It took us forever to find, and now we have the capacity to grow more."

    Starr said in the five years he's attended Ecclesia, the church has grown to include more families and older members, though it remains relatively young, creative and culturally aware.

    Seay is the pop-culture savvy author of The Gospel According to Lost, The Gospel According to Tony Soprano and The Gospel Reloaded: Exploring Spirituality and Faith in The Matrix.

    "I enjoy having conversations about the gospel in places where you might not always see it," he said.

    Seay's most recent title, though, is more straightforward: The Gospel According to Jesus. The book, released in September, centers on research on negative perceptions of Christianity in Gabe Lyons' book UnChristian, plus his own experiences as a pastor's kid in Humble and a church planter in Montrose. He urges Christians to live out Christ's love and the gospel message as a way to bring about restoration to society's brokenness.

    Beyond Montrose, that's Ecclesia's plan for its resources — the building, members and funds - to serve the First Ward with the same close-knit community feel as its packed house in Montrose.

    "There's a growing sense of intentionality," Ecclesia member Wayne Brown, 29, said. "We're going to be in a greater area, and we're going to be able to reach more people, but we're not going to become a corporation."

    During the building fundraising, Ecclesia partnered with a church in Haiti that's also buying a second facility to expand its ministry into neighborhoods where voodoo practice is prevalent.

    "It's not just about us, so as we go on this journey together, I am excited to see what God can do far beyond Houston, Texas," Seay said in a video message from Haiti.
     
  2. Fatty FatBastard

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    Watch my video from the thing I just posted, and I'll donate $20. (yes... the Don Francisco. I will quiz you...)

    Yo<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EO-7gehGYII?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EO-7gehGYII?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>u didn't grow up on that music?!?
     
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    membership deleted. Contact Life Partners...
     
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  4. MadMax

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    ????? :grin:
     
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    i listened to it...now what?

    no, i grew up on rock/pop music from older brother and sister; and heavy doses of sinatra and jazz from my father. developed a taste for east coast rap and r&b in junior high, largely fueled by new edition and a tribe called quest :) i was definitely a sucker for jazz-infused hip hop. favorite bands of all time include: dave matthews band; coldplay; the police; counting crows.

    i do enjoy talking about this church, though :)
     
  6. Fatty FatBastard

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    Oh shut up. Just watch what I posted. I still love that song.
     
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    Christian tribe called quest fan? No such thing.

    I understand how we need to shut our significant's up, so I'll give a pass on that r****ded excuse.

    I'm not a Christian music fan myself, but good music is what it is,.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPBVwOCYmM&NR=1&feature=fvwp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU

    If these don't go through, let me know. I'm all about the quality of the video.
     
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    Interesting, considering we grew up in the 70's.....

    Why, exactly, are you offended by religious music in that era?

    And I will find more.
     
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    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UI8ylsHKIMg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UI8ylsHKIMg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
     
  12. MadMax

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    :grin: can i please have my thread back?


    i didn't grow up in the 70's. aside from seeing Star Wars, I don't have much memory of the 70's, mostly because I was constantly stoned.

    i grew up in the 80's, really. i didn't listen to any christian music then. never even encountered it at all until high school, and didn't care for most of it then.
     
  13. Fatty FatBastard

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    I'm always right with food ventures... We are not seeing the same with the new crew...
     
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  14. MadMax

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    "New York's hottest club is Push. this club has everything; ghosts, banjos, Carl Palideno, a stuck up kitten who won't sign autographs, furckles..."

    "oooh, do i wanna know?"

    "yes, you do."

    "so Furckles are.....?"

    "Fat urkles!"

    "sure, sure they are..."

    "and after you've been with one of those guys you'll ask yourself 'did i do thaaaat?'"
     
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    Dude, I will throw stones at you until you admit otherwise....

    (what are you? 93?)
     
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    93 years old. i grew up in the 1880's.

    no...i was born in 74. by the time i was school age, Ronald Reagan was president, disco was out of fashion, and the Police were moving past their punk stage and into more a reggae-infused sound.
     
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  18. Fatty FatBastard

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    I was asking class of...

    You deserve this...
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    Hey Max, congrats on great news. Sounds like a really awesome church. I know you're involved, and I hope you can take a second and allow yourself to be proud of the good work you are doing, though I know the work itself is its own reward.

    Very awesome.
     
  20. Rashmon

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    Congrats on the church Max. Will there be a banking branch?

    Oh yeah, and get a room...
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