New CBA

I love the age limit.

Sucks for the players(Especially the Lebron's, Carmelo's, etc...), but it's a win-win situation for the NBA/NCAA.

This'll be a huge boost for the NCAA, as teams will get to hold on to their players and, thus, their identity for at least a few seasons. The pro game...I don't know how much it will actually affect the on-court product. For the most part, if you suck, you are not put into game situations, regardless of age/potential. Darko's deadweight right now, but he doesn't really hurt the team.

 

Blah! I hope high school players wise up and sign 2 year deals over seas, no sense in making millions for the NCAA when you can make millions for yourself. I doubt it though, moving thousands of miles away from your home to play basketball is probably too much for an 18 year old to handle.

LMAO @ the new "Minimum" Wage.

 

what does the C stand for?

 

Collective.

 

MLE (larger portion) is now 3.7M? Raise your hands if you think Stromile will sign with the Rockets starting at 3.7M.

I bet a lot of vets that were looking at getting the FULL MLE are going to be upset they can only sign for 4 years starting at 3.7 instead of 6 years starting at 4.9! HUGE difference!

 

i'm not sure why i am even commenting on this stuff considering how unofficial it must be. i thought they weren't even going to talk during the playoffs.


i'll believe this when i see it, but a luxury tax the minute you go over the cap? what kind of crap is that. in essence, they just lowered the cap. no one cared about going over the $44M cap b/c it seemed like you could go to about 53 or 55 w/o worrying abou the LT. now if they raise the cap but bring the LT down to the cap, the LT becomes the new cap. does the cliff provision still exist? i like the 125% rule, but i wonder how the new LT will affect us. also, when it says the MLE is broken into 2, does that allow you to use both parts on one guy or is 3.7M the new max you can offer a guy with the MLE. if so, i would think that would hurt us since that's all we'll have to offer this offseason.

i liked the old cba, though a year off the max length of contracts would've been nice, i wish they wouldn't mess with it.

 

seriously, even though i kinda think the mle got out of control, how did the players allow that (and basically give into everything else the owners wanted)? 6 yrs, 39M was the full mle. with 7% raises for a new team, that's looking like 4 yrs, 15.96M or so for a full mle. that's amazing. on the one hand, it hurts a team that only has the mle to give. on the other, so many teams only have the mle that some players will have to sign for that so it could actually help. however, it seems like you'll have guys worth more than that having to sign for it while guys who are worth right at 3.7 will still be getting the same contract. kinda messed up for the better players who aren't quite worth throwing big under-the-cap money at.

 

Collective Bargaining Agreement is the full acronym

 

19 teams would be over the salarycap. Including the Rockets. who will be at 56 mill without MLE usage , rookie sallaries, and resigning Deke and Barry.

Jesus we might have to pay 70mill when all is said and done

 

While I am very happy that the sides are reportedly close, I'll believe it when it's signed. Just look at the NHL--they've been "close" since about the end of January.

francis 4 prez--it very well could be that they are trying to work it out during the playoffs in order that the media doesn't focus on the negotiations, which makes it easier to get a deal done.

 

Woah, this clinches it, I am going to get 4 season tickets to the Austin NBDL team, could be Malick Badiane playing there.



DD

 

I wish there was a link. I wonder how old this "news" is.

If true about the split MLE then the Rockets will have to use a sign & trade to get a quality PF.

 

I think the Lux tax would have to go into effect after a few years so teams can get under it. I don't think 19 of the 30 team owners are saying "Yes" I want to pay the Lux tax next year.

 

also for teams with nice young players (like us) wouldn't we want yao to be signed up for 7 years. i understand stupid gms who give max contracts to guys like keith van horn but cleveland doesn't wanna deal with resigning lebron every few years.

 

Here's the latest on ESPN...doesn't mention any specific numbers, just that the two sides are scheduled to meet. I'm thinking the original info in this thread is older stuff...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2057479

Commissioner says more meetings coming upAssociated Press

MIAMI -- NBA commissioner David Stern reiterated Tuesday his confidence that a new labor agreement between the league's players and owners can be struck in the coming weeks.

Stern said a large group of players will meet in Chicago on Wednesday, and that another meeting with players and owners is scheduled in New York on May 17.

"We expect to have some informal discussions, staff-to-staff, in preparation of having a meeting on Tuesday in New York at which a significant group of owners and players, together with staffs from the union and the NBA, will get together," Stern said before Tuesday's Washington-Miami playoff game.

The current collective bargaining agreement is set to expire on June 30. Talks have been held sporadically since February.

Among the key issues to be addressed in the negotiations are the maximum length of player contracts, maximum annual raises allowed in those contracts, and the future of the escrow and luxury taxes designed to dissuade spending on player salaries.

"I'm optimistic that we will be making some progress next week," Stern said.

The commissioner also addressed a number of topics, including the selection of Phoenix's Steve Nash over Miami's Shaquille O'Neal as the league's Most Valuable Player and his ongoing push for the institution of a minimum age -- he prefers it'd be 20 -- for players to enter the league.

Stern said he didn't see anything unique with the fact that one of the league's MVP voters left O'Neal off his ballot entirely. O'Neal lost to Nash in the fourth-closest MVP vote in the last quarter-century.

"It happens every year in some shape or form," Stern said.

Regarding the age-limit issue, Stern repeated a familiar refrain -- that he wants the league's scouts and general managers take their scouting out of high school gyms.

"Their presence there is unseemly in my view," Stern said.

 

It is indeed older stuff from Chad Ford's article a while back. Nothing new there and it is not guaranteed that the NBAPA will agree to all of that in the end.

Deuce, the MLE listed in the initial post is about the same as what we have now. The only difference is the proposed length of years. With this porposed deal, certain players can still get the full $4.9M full MLE for 4 or 5 years with 7% or 9% annual increase.

 

Actually no. The initial post said that the MLE was SPLIT into TWO segments, 3.7M and 1.2M. So with that said, I was under the impression you couldn't COMBINE those two.

And as for years the intial post said signing other teams FAs you could only sign for a MAX of 4 years (but 5 years for your OWN guys...but you dont use the MLE for your own guys anyway).

So 3.7M/per (plus raises) for 4 years is the MAX MLE according to the initial post unless I missed something. (which could be the case. )

 

Unless you don't have Bird rights (2nd round picks, signed for 2 years, blow up, and you're over the limit when they becme a free agent). Rare, but it happens. How GSW lost Arenas.

I hope it all gets worked out. BTW, in regards to most teams being hit with the lux tax, there's an added kick in the pants. Raising the min. roster size to 14 as well as having teams pay rookies in the NBDL full salary could be pricey for owners. Effectively, that's an additional 7 to 10 guys on the books. Will NBDLers count against the salary cap while they're in the minors? Even if not, they'll still need to be paid. Shinn and Sterling are probably soiling their pants in anger.

Are owners going to be required to keep a certain number of players on their NBDL squad? You would think so, but will that mean that each time they call someone up, they need to sign an undrafted kid to take his place?

Evan