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New Bin Laden Tape

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gPfuhKxWr6wuItnKxaSAXAu3-2wA


    The new video of al-Qaida leader bin Laden — his first in three years — runs nearly 30 minutes long, said the government official who has seen a transcript of its contents and spoke on condition of anonymity because it has not been made public.

    Bin Laden makes "no overt threat" in the video, the official said.

    But he mentions Sept. 11 several times and says that while the United States is the greatest economic and military power in the world, the nation is unjust, the official said.

    The video, which the U.S. government obtained only very recently, surfaced the week before the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Several intelligence agencies were analyzing the video Friday.

    The Homeland Security Department said Friday it had no credible information warning of an imminent threat to the United States, and analysts noted that al-Qaida tends to mark the Sept. 11 anniversary with a slew of messages.

    White House deputy press secretary Tony Fratto declined to comment on the video until it has been fully analyzed, except to say it was a reminder of the continuing terrorist threat.

    "This is why we need to be more vigilant and more persistent in our pursuit of terrorists," Fratto said. "We will continue to pursue them. And it reminds us that we need to be certain that our intelligence professionals have all the tools they need to continue to disrupt their activities."

    According to the transcript, a copy of which was obtained by ABC News, bin Laden says there are two ways to end the war.

    "The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you," bin Laden says. The second is to eliminate the American democratic system of government.

    "It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations," he says.

    The transcript also mentions French President Nicolas Sarkozy, political activist and author Noam Chomsky, global warming, and refers to the Aug. 6 anniversary of the World War 2 bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Several intelligence and counterterror officials said there was still a question about whether the video was authentic — whether it is, in fact, Osama bin Laden on the tape. But one intelligence official said there has never been one of these tapes that has proven not to be authentic.

    The government also is looking at bin Laden's physical characteristics — in part, for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease.

    Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went down and were inaccessible. The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known.

    Evan H. Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the video leaked to U.S. officials.

    "For them this is totally disruptive that the U.S. government could have a copy before their targeted audience does," he said. "They could be concerned and trying to plug the leak quickly."

    The video ends bin Laden's longest period without a message. The al-Qaida leader has not appeared in new video footage since October 2004, and he has not put out a new audiotape in more than a year.

    Al-Qaida's media arm, Al-Sahab, announced bin Laden's new message Thursday in a banner advertisement on an Islamic militant Web site that included a photo of him.

    "Soon, God willing, a videotape from the lion sheik Osama bin Laden, God preserve him," the advertisement read, signed by Al-Sahab. Such announcements are usually put out one to three days before the video is posted on the Web.

    One difference in bin Laden's appearance was immediately obvious. The announcement had a still photo from the coming video, showing bin Laden addressing the camera, his beard fully black. In his past videos, bin Laden's beard was almost entirely gray with dark streaks.

    Bin Laden's beard appears to have been dyed, a popular practice among Arab leaders, said Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, a Washington-based group that monitors terror messages.

    Katz said al-Qaida has consistently marked the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks as one of its biggest successes. In 2003, a videotape of bin Laden was released the day before the anniversary and last year al-Qaida released a documentary describing the planning of the attacks.

    Videotapes of bin Laden are the group's most powerful propaganda tools, and they use them sparingly, Katz said, primarily because security concerns make access to the leader difficult. But also, she added, because al-Sahab wants to ensure that a new tape gets maximum play in the media.

    Over the last few years, al-Qaida leaders appear to have gotten better at distributing their missives, one intelligence official said. They are using subtitles and different languages and using the Internet to distribute them, rather than depending on a particular television station or network.
     
  2. tigermission1

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    He looks good, even fattened up a little bit...that's disturbing.

    Unfortunately, it only confirms what I already thought was the case, namely that OBL is somewhere where he's protected and enjoying his satellite subscription to CNN/Al-Jazeera/BBC, maybe even have some TexMex...
     
  3. KingCheetah

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    You're saying he is in Crawford, Texas? :eek:
     
  4. Texas Stoke

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    It's official, that stupid goat herder is a democrat.
     
  5. tigermission1

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    I don't know if he's a goat herder, but I know he eats them.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    He owes his entire career, soup to nuts, to Republicans... but then I guess a lot of democrats do too, so maybe you're correct.
     
  7. MadMax

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    I will vote Dem this next election, almost undoubtedly.

    But did he work from their talking-points, or what?? :) global warming??? :D
     
  8. Mr. Brightside

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    Why is his beard black? They said that in Islam it is customary and a rule to dye your beard with henna, which is a reddish colour.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    LMAO! He is, behind the scenes, Al Gore's chief science advisor.

    "Yes, Allah willing, you will all be consumed by a great fire!"

    "I see, well, Mr. Laden, or um, Mr. Bin. Laden. Or Dr. Bin Laden? If I understand it, you're saying that indeed we are causing the earth's temperature to go up, or to rise, if you will... like on this graph from my good scientist friends. Is that right?"
     
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  10. ima_drummer2k

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    I just came up with a great idea for how we can destroy al queda. Just don't click their banners!
     
  11. thadeus

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    It's funny how you drop so many one-liners in these threads and then never return to them.
     
  12. NewYorker

    NewYorker Ghost of Clutch Fans

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    Except that he helps republicans get elected and that serves his purposes.
     
  13. Tracy McIverson

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    I just read the six page script of "Bin Ladin's" tape.

    And all I have to say ... is he is ****in crazy.

    I find it strange how he goes on and on about murders and other bad stuff, and then casually invites people to emrbace Islam at the end of his speech.

    "Eye for an eye, limb for limb" "nerve damage in your soldiers" "American soldier suicides"..

    "Oh yah, and embrace Islam!"

    Thanks but no thanks.. worst salespitch ever
     
  14. peleincubus

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    no doubt. the world is mad. always has been. but hopefully with evolution one day it will level out a bit.

    to just make it clear people like this including all the other men that have caused thousands of people to die if it were for no reason. big middle finger to them.
     
  15. tigermission1

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    LOL! So true :D

    On a more serious note though, what do you think is the whole point behind this video tape (and the timing)? It's to MOCK the U.S. and those actively involved in trying to capture him. This video tape in particular was so 'over the top' (yes, even by Bin Laden's standards) that I couldn't help but think that this guy was just rubbing it in...all the while encouraging the U.S. to keep pursuing him, that way -- he seems to believe -- he can continue to 'bleed' the U.S. economy. If you've read some of the transcripts of his recordings in the past, OBL has from DAY ONE preached to his followers that the key to the "U.S. empire" is its economic prowess; it's no coincidence that he keeps mentioning the corporations that he firmly believes are the real power behind 'the throne', and thus primarily responsible for sustaining and misleading the public into buying into U.S. military interventions.
     
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    "To conclude," bin Laden says, "I invite you to embrace Islam." He goes on to say: "There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent."
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    OBL apparently is a fiscal conservative. ;) :cool: :p :eek: :eek:
     
  17. tigermission1

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    More like "fiscally r****ded"...you can't conduct an honest-to-goodness military campaign(s) at such a low rate.
     
  18. Texas Stoke

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    Was it the goat-herder comment that offended you, Mr. ****-the-troops?
     
  19. Texas Stoke

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    Doesn't the Koran say something about before attacking the infidel to offer them first the option to convert to Islam then if they deny the request to then offer them a second option to be taxed by muslims for being non-muslim and if they refuse that to then attack them?

    I don't know maybe I'm wrong but I thought I heard that somewhere.

    I just hope that damn black beard is not some sort of "go signal" for his followers.
     
  20. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Bin Laden is getting his beard colored and making video tapes 6 years after 9/11. :mad:
     

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