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Nene, anyone??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Yaowaming, Jul 3, 2005.

  1. Yaowaming

    Yaowaming Contributing Member

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    http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_2837594


    I would trade david wesley for nene, and with either bobby simmons or walkers here, we are looking good!!!!!!!


    Article Launched: 07/03/2005 01:00:00 AM

    nuggets notes
    Nene out to regain big role
    By Adam Thompson
    Denver Post Staff Writer



    The most important off- season of Nene's career could be his last as a Nugget, though he hopes it isn't.

    Entering his fourth year, the 6-foot-11 power forward is looking to earn more playing time after injuries and the arrival of Kenyon Martin pushed him to the bench. His numbers dipped to career-low averages of 9.6 points and 5.9 rebounds per game last season.

    But, writing an e-mail translated by manager Joe Santos from his native Brazil, Nene said he hopes a regimen of weights and soccer will help him as he heads into the final year of his contract.

    "I was a starter in the past and plan on working hard enough to regain my starting position," he said. "I have been training every day and will continue honing my game the rest of the summer. I have never been in better shape at this point in the summer before."

    Nene said he views the soccer, which he plays a few hours a day three to four times a week, as a form of plyometrics, a set of exercises that uses explosive movements to develop muscles.

    "My foot speed is definitely increasing," said Nene, who lost 23 games to injury last season. "I am in great shape right now. I plan on maintaining this all summer while working on my game. I want to continue to work on my outside shooting, my inside moves and rebounding. I improved in all areas and want to take a giant leap this season."

    Nene said his agent, Michael Coyne, is reviewing the NBA's new
     
  2. saleem

    saleem Member

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    Yaowaming, Your proposed trade isn't realistic. Getting Nene is impossible for us unless it was for either Yao or T-Mac.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    Definately

    Rocket River
     
  4. krosfyah

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    I doubt Denver would make this trade w/ a WC rival. We don't have anything particularly exciting to warrent Denver giving us an obvious boost off our bench. Wesley isn't too exciting for them.

    I think Nene would be perfect fit coming off the bench behind a healthy JHow. But he said in this article he doesn't want to come off the bench. Nene has one year left and another team option. So at 3 mil, he's pretty cheap.

    If you can swing this trade, you can use your MLE to go after a Ron Artest or Catino Mobley 2-guard type player. That would be great. But I just don't know how you pass up on Atoine Walker or SAR if they are willing to sign for MLE.

    Nene is a long shot for the Rox.
     
  5. binvegas

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    Great post. I would definately give up next years first round pick and Sura for Nene. The kid was very raw when he came into the league should have improve going up against Camby and K-Mart everyday, sounds like he is working hard this summer has a NBA body. If we do get Antoine Walker we could play him at small forward and this would be a great line up.




    C Yao Ming
    PF Nene
    SF Antoine Walker
    SG T-Mac
    PG Mike James
     
  6. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    No it's not. He's a disgruntled back up. His stock is at an all-time low, and they know that if he's a back up for another season, he's going to do everything within his power to bolt. There may be other teams out there that can offer them more attractive packages, but I really believe he can be had. Further, to suggest that he has anywhere near the value of Yao and T-Mac is absolutely ridiculous.
     
  7. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    Why the hell is everybody penciling in Mike James as our starting point guard? I highly doubt that will happen. He's a good player, but he isn't a very good point guard. He's much better suited to bringing an offensive spark off the bench.
     
  8. toby

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    Most teams with a mildly mobile 2 would burn us night in and night out. T-Mac played SF last year for a reason. Not to mention that Antoine is not nearly fast enough to guard Small Forwards in the NBA. If antoine is on the team, there is no chance that we trade for nene imo.
     
  9. Drexlerfan22

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    Needless to say this would be a dream come true, but it won't happen.
     
  10. saleem

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    jmwillliamson,I'm not suggesting that Nene's value is anywhere near that of Yao or T-Mac. I'm saying if we asked Denver for him they might ask for either Yao or T-Mac in some kind of combo deal.
     
  11. franchise23

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    Nene would certainly be interesting but I am not sure what the Rockets can offer to get him. I doubt the want Sura b/c they already have Miller and Boykins at PG. They dont need Wesley either since they will be getting Lenard back and also have Person. Other than offering them a first round pick and expiring contracts I am not sure what we could offer to get Nene.
     
  12. dharocks

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    I've been trying to come up with a scenario in which we could get Nene by only giving up expiring contracts. The closest I could come up with was this:

    Houston Trades:
    Clarence Weatherspoon
    David Wesley
    Moochie Norris

    Denver Trades:
    Nene
    Eduardo Najera
    Voshon Lenard

    Golden State Trades:
    Jason Richardson
    Adonal Foyle

    Houston Recieves:
    Adonal Foyle
    Nene
    Eduardo Najera

    Denver Receives:
    Jason Richardson
    Moochie Norris

    Golden State Recieves:
    David Wesley
    Clarence Weatherspoon
    Voshon Lenard

    We do it, obviously, to get Nene. Najera's a great energy player, Foyle's overpaid but he's still a good backup center. Denver does it because they have a logjam at PF and they get a SG who fits their run and gun style perfectly. Golden State does it because they get rid of some bad contracts and take only expiring contracts in return, and they have Pietrus who some believe will eventually be better than J-Rich, and CD has some photos of Chris Mullin in compromising positions.

    It doesn't work cap-wise, Richardson's BYC, and even if those two factors weren't present, it's an unrealistic deal anyway... So I guess I need to work on my trade dreamcasting :)
     
  13. david_rocket

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    I like this trade. :)
     
  14. Drexlerfan22

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    And therein lies the key... :D
     
  15. Hakeem06

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    and golden state trades jason richardson because................

    if they trade anyone it's one of their 8 PF's on the roster. not their PERFECT running mate for B-Diddy.
     
  16. steddinotayto

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    I think Nene could be had. I mean c'mon...


    Forward Eduardo Najera and guard Luis Flores from Golden State

    to Denver For

    Small forward Rodney White and power forward Nikoloz Tskitishvili

    and skita was supposedly the next coming of Dirk...or Pau....or whomever.

    And right now, with Kenyon manning the 4 spot, who knows? They do need a spot up shooter who can drain the 3 because Vashon Lenard, though he can do that, don't look like he's going to make it up and down the court when I saw him in the 3 pt contest.

    Wesley or Sura or James plus fillers (mooch...draft pick..whatever)

    for

    Nene.
     
  17. dharocks

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    Because it would give them a chance to dump Foyle's horrendous contract. Because Richardson's contract (6 years, $70 million) ain't too pretty either. And that's on a team that's already paying Murphy (6 years $58 million), Fisher (5 years, $32 million), and Baron Davis (5 years, $63 million) a ton of money. Because they have a young, atheltic swingman in Pietrus who plays better defense than Richardson.

    Jason Richardson is far from untouchable in Golden State. I'm not saying the scenario provided is the most realistic one, but the Warriors would have plenty of reasons to trade J-Rich.
     
  18. Slick Rick

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    I like the trade of Sura and a #1 for Nene. Sura is really a 2 guard which helps Denver in that area. I know that Sura is not the great shooter like Redd Allen and Joe Johnson, but he would bring more toughness to the team. You can also use the MLE for Simmons. It is believed that Donald Sterling will not play the whole MLE because the Clips are gunning for Ray Allen. You can look at Spanilus (spelling?) You also have expiring contracts for a trade for PG. If Seattle needs cap relief for resigning Allen, then an expiring contract next year will help. They have a bad arena deal and are also been losing money. The trade with the Sonics can give you Daniels. On the other hand, I do not like Walker with the Rockets. He is a very old 28. He is not a good defensive player. The Rox need athletic, high effort guys. Can Walker give 150% every night for JVG.

    Here is a possible starting 5:
    PG Daniels
    SG T-Mac (goes to original position)
    SF Simmons (can interchange with McGrady based on Matchup)
    PF Nene (Yes, Nene starts for us now)
    C Yao
    :D
     
  19. Yaowaming

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    http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_2843764

    No rush on Nene
    Michael Coyne, the agent for Nuggets forward Nene, said it was "impossible to tell" anything from the recent spate of rumors about his client getting traded.

    "We'll see what happens," Coyne said. "I'm heartened that he's seemingly in such great demand."

    Coyne added that he will wait to give the NBA's new collective bargaining agreement a close read before initiating any extension talks with the Nuggets. Nene's contract expires next summer.

    "I'm a lawyer, so I'm a stickler for reading the rules," Coyne said. "There's no hurry to sign an extension from our perspective."
     
  20. Chilly_Pete

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    I would trade Mike James for Nene.

    But its hard to get teams to trade a big for a guard.
     

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