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Need advice for job rehire question

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rockets2K3, Sep 15, 2009.

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  1. Rockets2K3

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    Hello, need some advice.

    I was currently let go of my position. Here's the story:

    When they hired me, I told them of my skill set and what I didn't have at the interview. They hired me on anyways. What wasn't told in the interview was they provided no training and I had to learn everything that I didn't know while on the job. After a little less than a year on the job, they said they have to part ways because I lacked the skill set and couldn't pick up on what I didn't know. They said I wasn't a fit for the job instead of trying to work with me. They called it a termination even though I didn't do anything wrong. They also said I was labeled as non-rehire, which doesn't look good for me when I apply for jobs.

    I was going to tell employers that I quit the position. I know the only things employers can ask is how long I have worked there and if I'm eligible for rehire (spoke w/ a couple of staffing agencies to confirm).

    Now if the prospective employers ask me why my former employer says I'm non-rehireable, what do I say to not make them think I was terminated for something worse?
     
  2. BmwM3

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    You tell them what I bolded above.
     
  3. Rockets2K3

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    I would love to say that, but I don't want to tell them that it wasn't challenging. I don't want them to think I'm a quitter. Employers don't want to hire someone they think might quit after a year because I'm unhappy. Plus, they can smell the BS a mile away.... "Oh, this former job just wasn't challenging enough, so I quit with nothing else lined up."
     
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    exactly. Just be honest and describe the situation. You might want to try to put some spin on it and how it wasnt a good fit. There might be some concern from the interviewer since you were not able to "learn on the job". Not everyone wants to do a formal training.
     
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    wait...if the job wasnt challenging then why did you get canned?

    Quitter? i thought you got termed? :confused:

    this new job doesnt involve writing instructions does it? ;)
     
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    If you want to fib about it, you can always say that you can't be rehired because you left without 2 weeks notice.
     
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    Never lie in an interview. You can embellish your responsibilities to make them sound more important, but never flat out lie because you will get dinged and not get hired if they find out.
     
  8. Mrs. Valdez

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    A lot of companies have a no-rehire policy. Just because they say you can't be rehired doesn't mean other employers will assume the worst. Generally an HR department won't say anything too negative about a past employee for fear of lawsuits. You may need to think hard about who could vouche for you in terms of a positive recommendation.
     
  9. Rockets2K3

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    Wait, I wrote it wrong :p . The job was challenging for me. I applied for the job and told them straight up that I didn't have some of the skills they were looking for in the position. They hired me on, providing no training, and expected me to pick up everything on my own. Then they let me go because I didn't provide the skill set they were looking for. Idiots.

    Yes, they called it a termination, but I'm guessing they did that so they could avoid me going for unemployment. It seems to be more of a layoff. That's why I'm going to tell prospective employers I quit or I got laid off. I just need advice on what to tell them if they ask me why I wasn't eligible for rehire.
     
  10. Rockets2K3

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    I'm going to get someone to back me up from that employer who can give me a positive recommendation.

    It sucked this had to happen. They just me in a tough position of calling this crap a termination and a non-rehire when it wasn't even my fault for this. I just want to prepare myself when employers ask why am I not eligible for rehire.
     
  11. Depressio

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    If you tell them your story, simply be prepared for this: Why didn't you acquire the skills that were necessary without them having to hold your hand and tutor you?
     
  12. h-townfan

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    Just tell them you were laid off. With the economy the way it is I don't think they will have a problem with that.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    I would call it a lay-off, not quitting or termination. I'd recommend telling the truth (besides the termination technicality) -- that they provided no training and expected you to magically learn stuff without any investment on their part, and that the whole relationship was doomed to failure. However, you want to be careful how you say it, because it is a delicate balance. You don't want to sound like (1) you're criticizing your former employer, (2) you can't learn, (3) you don't go the extra mile, (4) you don't mind doing sub-par work, (5) you expect future employers to hold your hand, (6) etc. I would accentuate the initial misunderstanding that you expected training that was not forthcoming, perhaps give the employer some criticism tempered with a justification for why they didn't deliver, and talk about the skills you did acquire and the work you did to get them.
     
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    You didn't do well enough at that job... but now you're crying about it because they "had to let you go"?

    This speaks lots about what happened.

    It wasn't a "laid off" thing. I think it was a "you didn't show enough initiative" or "you didn't improve yourself" thing. :eek: Learn from this, man.
     
  15. Rockets2K3

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    Let's see.....salary based, working 40 hours plus an extra 20 hours at home per week, and traveling all over the city. Since they provided no training and I was just thrown to the wolves, I had to learn on my own while on the job. A little training and some help, I could of still been there. They didn't give a crap.

    A normal person knows that there are 24 hours in a day. For them, they thought it was 36-48 hours in a day and with an umbilical cord attached to my nuts.
     
  16. Rockets2K3

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    Dude, don't turn this around as if I didn't want to show initiative, CroNy-D. You have no clue what happened except from what I posted. If you need to take a dump on someone, the D&D is open.

    Look, I just asked for advice on if employers asked why I wasn't available for rehire. That's all.
     
  17. Rockets2K3

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    Thanks for the advice, JV.
     
  18. SwoLy-D

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    Really? Is that all you did? Seriously? I don't have the skills necessary to argue with you, but I would like to apply to argue with you anyway. C'mon, please? :cool:

    Well...? Did you get your MCSE and CCNA, or didn't?
     
  19. Rockets2K3

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    Anyone else that can help me out besides this bum?
     
  20. SwoLy-D

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    A bum with a job. :p

    Answer my question.
     

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