Augie's still up to his old tricks. Put an asterisk next to last year's NC (just like the one in '02 had one, as well). I guess academics over there in Austin just don't matter for baseball or for football (40% graduation rate...). Sad. http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/02/24baseball.html NCAA may take away Longhorns baseball scholarship NCAA to release Academic Progress Rate By John Maher AMERICAN-STATESMAN Friday, February 24, 2006 The University of Texas could lose a scholarship in baseball when the NCAA levels its first round of penalties tied to athletes' academic progress. The NCAA is scheduled to release its academic progress rate report Wednesday, and the defending national champion Texas baseball team might lose as many as 1.17 scholarships, 10 percent of the 11.7 allowable for the sport. The matter was discussed Thursday at UT's monthly meeting of the Intercollegiate Athletics Council for Men, and the overall academic picture was painted as generally bright, including a recent 3.0 overall grade-point average for the men's basketball team. The NCAA adopted the academic progress rate system in 2004, with the goal of upgrading academic performance by student-athletes. The APR is viewed as a more accurate gauge than the graduation rates formerly used as a measure. It's also the first system the NCAA has used that includes penalties for poor academic performance. The academic progress rate is supposed to provide a current snapshot of a team's academic standing, but UT men's Athletic Director DeLoss Dodds has been critical of the APR as it applies to baseball. Baseball differs from other college sports in that many, not just a handful, of athletes can leave after their junior year for the major and minor leagues. Dodds said Thursday that Texas was looking at a penalty because of three players in otherwise good academic standing last season who were six hours short of the NCAA-required progress toward a degree. Dodds said the work could have been made up in summer school had they not left to play professionally. Some NCAA administrators, however, have characterized baseball as one of the organization's problematic sports in terms of academic progress, along with football and men's basketball. Although at Texas, it appears that football and basketball are not headed for any sanctions. "The process needs to be worked on. We're trying to force the issue," Dodds said. UT is still trying to get graduation bonus credits and has not heard what the final penalty for baseball could be or when it would be levied, council members said. Also discussed Thursday were football ticket prices for the 2006 season. The seven home games will range from $45 for Sam Houston State to $85 for Ohio State and Texas A&M, and tickets will cost $430 if purchased individually. The season-ticket package will carry a price of $365.
Sure is old Augie's fault that these kids are successful and get drafted before they graduate. The rule has some major faults. It penalizes teams for kids leaving early to pursue a professional career. What is the difference between this and some computer whiz kid leaving early to do the same thing? There needs to be some kind of review process for why these kids actually left early. They shouldn't be penalized for being good.
It's not a big shock when a good college baseball player leaves after his junior year. If face, that's the norm rather than the exception. Everyone expects JRs to leave after that season. Old Augie's casting a blind eye to the fact that his players aren't cutting the mustard in the classroom. There's a reason the NCAA is likely to strip them of a scholly.
"Dodds said Thursday that Texas was looking at a penalty because of three players in otherwise good academic standing last season who were six hours short of the NCAA-required progress toward a degree. Dodds said the work could have been made up in summer school had they not left to play professionally." Wow. This is quite the scandal. Hey texx...how long until Savery's arm blows up ala Baugh, Skaggs, Niemann, Humber and Townsend? Coincidence? Me thinks not.
Unless I'm reading it wrong...it sounds to me like leaving early wasn't the reason they were behind. From reading that it sounds like at the end of their junior year they were BEHIND... and he is saying had they not gone pro they could have gone to summer school and caught up.. BUT they were already behind at end of junior year.. as far as leaving early and graduating.... it is very possible I know of players drafted as high as number 6 overall who still made sure they came back in the fall and graduated in 4.5 years.. despite already having millions
Well, I wonder who these players who weren't up to par academically were. I think it's safe to say that the horns wouldn't have won the NC without them, if all three of them went pro. The fact that the NCAA is going to strip a scholarship does mean that it's a scandal. If you're willing to not consider academics important, then I guess you're right - it's not a big deal. Just win baby.
texx seriously, you want to put an asterisk to the national championships because augie is able to produce ball players who will make more money leaving after their JR year playing pro baseball than they will ever make with a college degree? you are just a sore, envious loser. graduation rates and baseball need to be looked at. it is a completely different beast than any other college sport because of how long the mlb draft is. and especially when you are successful winning national titles, and making the trip to omaha every season. these guys are going to get drafted and very high. they would STUPID to pass up the type of money being tossed at them.
The reason is because these kids left early to play professionaly. The rule doesn't account for this in any fashion. If those 3 players didn't leave for the minor leagues, this wouldn't be an issue, period. They didn't quit because of academic problems. Does UT have some issues to work out academically? Of course they do, just like any other major program not named Stanford or Rice. It doesn't mean they should be penalized because players are good enough to leave school early and become professionals. The football team's numbers will be hurt by Vince Young (or USC and Reggie Bush so as to not start an argument). Is that fair? Should he be forced to stay and get his degree, taking a chance at a career ending injury when he has the opportunity to make a life for himself and his family? Is there any info on if UH is losing any scholarships under this rule. It's not like they're exactly at the top of the class academically when it comes to graduating athletes.
and for the record MOST of those players won't make more money playing pro baseball than with a college degree... Unless they were really really high picks... the majority of players drafted are looking at la fairly small bonus and something like two thousand a month.. unless they make the majors.. which most don't...
That has nothing to do with it. It's the opportunity that a large portion of us wouldn't be able to turn down.
You're missing the point. Everybody knows that good baseball players will leave after their jr year when they're drafted. That is a given in today's college baseball game. The article states that these students had not completed enough hours towards their degree. Deloss's argument that "oh, well they could have simply made up those hours in summer school" is incredibly weak because he knows damn well that those players were going to be playing in the minors during that time. Shady business, all around. The NCAA wouldn't be threatening to pull schollys if this wasn't a big deal.
leroy.. someone said they make far more than they would with a degree.. I'm just stating that a lot of the people drafted make 2k a month.. with no shot at ever making the pros... which is why if you arent a TOP player getting a degree and going pro the next year often makes more sense than signing as a 30th round pick...
leroy.. and not being able to turn down depends on how high drafted really... I had a friend this year drafted high enough that I thought it was a good idea for him to go pro since he will be coming back and finishing his degree soon.. Had he been drafted 40th round with no bonus.. I would have probably not have thought he should go pro.. A first round staying a year and his stock going down could cost him millions.. but a 30th rounder dropping to 35th rounder if he has a bad season his senior year doesn't really cost much... If the first rounder gets injured senior year he cost himself millions.. if the 30th rounder gets injured senior year he cost himself a few thousand... I can't blame first rounders that much.. the guy I was speaking of in an earlier post is one of the few people to ever turn going pro as a first rounder out of high school and still get drafted top 10 in college..
They were all in "good academic standing" accoring to Dodds. They were not in any sort of danger of being ruled ineligible, so I don't see how the "wouldn't have won..." canard is appropriate here. The 6 hours in question would have been made up in summer school had they not gone pro. Can you not admit that the ncaa rules seem a bit inflexible wrt college baseball? In other former Rice pitcher news, Matt Anderson is working hard toward cementing his place along with fellow druggie Josh Hamilton as the worst #1 MLB draft pick of the past since Brien Taylor. Guess his prodigious talent was overshadowed by his even more prodigious love of bong & booze. So sad.
How old are you and still clinging to your school name? I'm less than two years out, and live ten miles away, but I don't even think about my alma mater, and the school has a better reputation than Rice.
hey troll make sure you start posting every single other "scandal" for every other NCAA school, ok? since you are so pro-academics you should be worried about every school, right? stfu and quit being such a troll over texas.
