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NBA Suspension Rules regarding Eddie Griffins arrest

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Apr 7, 2003.

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  1. heypartner

    heypartner Member

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    I'm starting a new thread to quickly list NBA rules regarding Eddie's arrest, since many people asked questions re: this in the monster thread. This is for anyone who has stopped reading the big thread since it has turned into a Hangout type argument regarding mar1juana arrests.

    Merge as you see fit.

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    The CBA does not list all possible reasons for suspension. However, off-court arrests definitely require a conviction or guilty plea (include nolo contendere). Stuff like Felony Violence convictions have a mandatory 10-game suspension, but there is no other mention of off-court type convictions. So use that as your benchmark for a (presumably first time) misdemeanor moral interpritude conviction.

    btw: this looks bad for Eddie if he really did have an arrest warrant for outstanding ticket, as that becomes of matter of course reason to arrest and search the vehicle.

    As for league punishment, while teams can negotiate extra clauses in contracts, the only writing regarding non-violent, misdemeanor conduct found in the Uniform Player Agreement is under the "Conduct" and "Termination" parapraphs (Paragraph 5 and 16), and supportive writing in the NBA Constitution.

    <b>In short,</b> there is no manditory language beyond the requirement of a conviction...arrest is obviously not enough. Very doubtful Eddie will go to court prior to the end of the Rockets season. Termination is the maximum penalty, but is subject to a grievance hearing, and precedence seems to indicate this would be a minor suspension and fine, at worst.

    <b>Specific Language from the Uniform Player Contract--Paragraph 16, "Termination."</b>

    Upon conviction, <b>the Rockets are actually within their rights to immediately Terminate the contract.</b>

    <blockquote><hr>(a) The Team may terminate this Contract upon written notice to the Player if the Player shall:

    (i)at any time, fail, refuse, or neglect to conform his personal conduct to standards of good citizenship, good moral character (defined here to mean not engaging in acts of moral turpitude, whether or not such acts would constitute a crime), and good sportsmanship, to keep himself in first class physical condition, or to obey the Team’s training rules;<hr></blockquote>

    And this is from the NBA Constitution

    <blockquote><hr>MISCONDUCT

    35. The provisions of this Article 35 shall govern all Players in the Association, hereinafter referred to as "Players."

    (e) The Commissioner shall have the power to suspend for a definite or indefinite period, or to impose a fine not exceeding $35,000, or inflict both such suspension and fine upon any Player who, in his opinion, shall have been guilty of conduct [EDIT: convicted, plead guilty, or nolo contendere] that does not conform to standards of morality or fair play, that does not comply at all times with all federal, state, and local laws, or that is prejudicial or detrimental to the Association. <hr></blockquote>

    Again, while the NBA allows for teams to Terminate players for moral interpitude convictions, and the NBA Constitution allows the NBA Office to suspend indefinitely, there is little precedence for even a minor suspension.
     
  2. heypartner

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    sigh...I meant to write "moral terpitude"
     
  3. KeepJuaquin

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    So our playoff hopes are gone?
     
  4. Gummi Clutch

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    Didnt Mo Taylor miss 3 to 5 games at the beginning of the season for the same charge?
     
  5. heypartner

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    Eddie won't go to court for awhile, so there can be no suspension until then. And there might not be any to begin with. The rules listed are really meant to punish felony violence or betting on games or changing the outcome. Repetitive Moral Terpitude issues probably would do you in, too...draft dodging, Pee Wee Herman, Marv Albert type stuff.

    I'm betting that first time possession probably will not get a suspension. But the point of the thread is to say that NBA language does allow them to punish, desite the fact that the Drug Testing rules are different regarding suspension.
     
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    Yeah. Mo missed the first 5 games of the season.
     
  7. heypartner

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    Mo Taylor was never arrested for possesion. His offense falls under the clearly defined rules of breaking the Drug Testing Program. Mo was on his 3rd failed piss test, which requires a mandatory 5-game suspense.

    These two circumstances are not the same.
     
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    Good research...

    I suspect we'll be with EG the rest of the seaons, although I don't think that'll help our chances...I'd rather see MoT start...
     
  9. KeepJuaquin

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    Without Eddie...we are hopeless against Rasheed Wallace, Karl Malone, Rashard Lewis, Pau Gasol, and all the other good forwards. No playoffs. :( Rockets...so many things happened this year.
     
  10. heypartner

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    KeepJuaquin,

    read carefully,

    there can be no suspension without a conviction. He won't go to trial for awhile, so you have no worries this year, imo.
     
  11. tslee98

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    Moral turpitude. Come on. The legal system is slow and the Rockets are in the middle of a playoff fight. My prediction is that nothing is going to happen to Eddie based on this single arrest, but if it does, it won't happen until next season.
     
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    When Roberto Alomar spit in the umpires face, there was a clause in the MLB contract that said a player could not be suspended for the playoffs. What far sighted mouth piece had the intelligence to put that in. Guess that is why lawyers make big bucks for what seems like nothing.
     
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    Rasheed Wallace and D. Stoudmire didn't miss any games when they were caught with weed...
     
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    That kind of talk could get you banned from the chat room. Please use "peepee" or "tinkle" in the future. Thanks :)
     
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    The best thing for the Rockets to do is fined him we can't afford to loose him right now at this particular time. If they can. What a mess !
     
  16. Sane

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    I don't know if I'm very opposed to Eddie missing a game or two. I'd love to see more of a Yao/Mo combo both backed up by Cato.

    Griffin better show something special next season or else he's a bust. he must come out a much better player next season.
     
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    It's amazing, you people act like EG is valuable to the team. To me, all he's good for is missing shots. At least you know you're going to get fifteen points out of Mobley nightly, even though he's jacking up bad shots. Griffin's a power forward who plays like he's a shooting guard. We need more of an inside force like Taylor at the 4.
     
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    i mean ... did you mean NBA?

    sorry about the double posting.
     
  20. A-Train

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    hehehe...you said "terpitude"...
     

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