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NBA Shootaround Crew comments on Rocks/Mavs series today

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tigermission1, May 1, 2005.

  1. tigermission1

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    They had a lot ot say, so let me just summarize as much as I can:

    Legler: He said that McGrady has been doing everything and playing superb, but that Yao Ming played weak and unable to stay in the floor and be effective more consistently (they were showing highlights of perfect passes going through Yao's hands and him being stripped easily by Dirk).

    Anthony: He said that he is not surprised that Dallas has tied the series up and will win it as he said likely in 7 (his prediction, and mine before the series started). He said that simply speaking the Mavs have too many players stepping up and the fact that they are winning games without Dirk playing well the whole series tells you all you need to know about why the Mavs are just a superior team, because their role players can take over games.

    Steven Smith: He said that the Rockets role players, and Yao, are not stepping up, and that he hates to say it, but he thinks McGrady should go over to Yao and tell him "Listen big fella, you know I love you and all, but I am going to pass less and shoot more and concern myself less with passing the ball." He thinks that the Rockets role players haven't stepped up to help McGrady in the series.

    Then later on in the show, they did "Playoff MVP", and Tim Legler said that "by far Tracy McGrady is the best player in the Playoffs", but he isn't getting help from his teammates.

    Just thought I would share this since I saw it a few minutes ago.
     
  2. YallMean

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    See, Yao's coming from a school team work is placed over individual work. This is why he's setting screens for everybody, and he's reluctant to force the issues. Yao needs to be

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  3. tigermission1

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    See, the funny thing is Yao has been VERY aggressive this series so far, he has just been in too much foul trouble to stay on the court and be effective for longer periods of time.

    I think if anything good comes out of this series, it is that we now know for a fact that Yao isn't passive when he wants to, he can be aggressive and can do it consistently. too bad the new NBA rules limit aggression and Yao's ability to dominate without fouling out.

    But hey, I am more than content with how the Rockets have played so far in the series, I am very happy with their effort and heart, they showed me a lot of character, and they have given me a glimpse of what they can be in the future.
     
  4. YallMean

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    It's not that Yao is not aggressive. Yao just needs to learn to be SELFISH. You dont see Shaq set picks for Eddide Jones, Damon Jones. We saw how Tmac waived off James to bring the ball up. Yao just shied away down the strech and let guards take over. Yao gotta force the issues, when he did, good things usually happen. Yao is not selfish person, ironically that might be his biggest weakness on the court.
     
  5. JBIIRockets

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    They are all right about Yao. If the Rockets are going to win the series Yao Ming is going to have to play with more assertiveness.

    If he plays like he did in Game 3 and 4, the Rockets will lose in 6.
     
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    If he plays more aggressive, he's going to foul out before halftime.
     
  7. YallMean

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    Oh the other thing I want to point out, outside Tmac, our backcout lacks talent. Dallas has 3 or 4 guys that they can throw the ball and they will create. So JVG has to ask Yao set up those screens to free up preimeter for catch&shoot situation. We have been playing like this for whole year. We might not be ready this year just yet.
     
  8. Man

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    Okay.

    Yao took how many shots?
    How many times does Yao get the ball?

    Look at Webber..he can score still 20..he jacks up 20 shots a game..so every night he has a chance of getting 20 points or whatever. Yao..takes like what 5 shots a game?

    Yao I know gets tired and fatigued and foul trouble and horrible stamina and whatnot..but when he dominates..he can dominate..when he's pissed..and bumps his man and seriously gets his f'in position..and a guy like Sura just dribbles more until Yao loses the position..it's r****ded.

    Tmac I agree..actually I don't..cuz Tmac has been taking most of the shots..he's been making them. But I also agree because I'd rather see Tmac with the ball than Mike James or Bob Sura at this point. Wesley doesn't impress me..he gets the job done..but who would I rather see with the ball? Tmac. Or Padgett :p

    I agree that Yao has to be more selfish. But seriously it's been like what 3 years..Yao isn't going to be selfish. I don't know..maybe we need to stand up for him and contact Rockets coaches and players and general managers and owners or something..or anyway to tell the Rockets.

    Yao is capable of scoring and creating shots for others. WHen you have ALAN HENDEROSN ON HIM..please give him teh ball. EVEN DIRK..DIRK HAS NOT SHOWN ANY ABILITIES OR SIGNS OF BEING ABLE TO GUARD YAO. The only thing he can do is FLOP and hold and grab Yao's arms and draw offensive bs fouls. Dampier..are you kidding? Dampier looks a little out of shape to me..but he's still good..a formidable threat but hasn't shown much this series..he played well in game 3 though.

    Dallas has stepped up and tied the series.

    We can still win the series. I still think we won the first 2 games..and we should have won the last 2 games.

    We need to make a gameplan..plan it well..understand it learn it..and execute it..and make in-game adjustments..everybody has to be ready..maybe our guys are tired or maybe they got complacent or bad luck or refs...lots of factors.

    It's Yao and Tmac..and then our role players. Role players have to make all open shots with no mistakes. :)
     
  9. YallMean

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    Man, pretty much I agree with you.

    It kills me to see Sura, James not looking for Yao when Tmac is trapped.@Our gameplan seems simple for the guards, look for Tmac first. If he is trapped, go get crazy and create. I think Tmac passes Yao best. Oh, well, cant blame Sura or James, they fugging back ups and journey men prior for a reason. Remember Charlie fugging Ward is supposed to man the PG.
     
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    These four games prove that Dampier can't contain Yao, but Refs can.

    I can't believe how ridiculous Refs called the 4th and 5th foul on Yao last night. Both are offense fouls, one on Dirk's flopping and the other one was an almost invisible moving screen bump. How can Yao be agrressive? There are double standards!
     
  11. YallMean

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    Regarding fouls. Shaq gets into foul trouble too. The way NBA is officiating right now is wrong. They take away big man's game coz Shaq was too dominant, game became boring. The NBA officiating is killing US basketball.
     
  12. Will

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    Each camp in this thread is half right. Yao's problem is that he works so hard to accomplish so little. Constantly fighting for position and not getting it. Running from one place to another just in time to pick up a silly foul.

    Look at McGrady. He's exactly the opposite. Accomplishes so much by taking it slow, smooth, and easy. Stops a drive or pass just by faking motion in that direction. Puts a foul on a defender by shifting his head one way, then going the other.

    Here and there, I see Yao learning a little bit from McGrady. When Yao plays 5 feet back from his man on defense but deters a shot just by leaning forward, or when Yao runs backward alongside a driving guard and makes him shoot a bad jumper without allowing their paths to cross, that's progress. But that'll take time.
     
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    You can blame that on one person only.... JVG
     
  14. Deuce

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    Fair points!

    And How about this statistic?

    These are McGrady's numbers in the 4th Quarter the last two games. We can talk about role players making shots, and I totally agree with that. But at the same token, as brilliant as McGrady is playing, someway if he wants to take it to the next level he is going to have to PRODUCE in the 4th quarter.

    Game 3: (4th Quarter 1-5 FG, 5 pts) (Overall 10-23 FG 28 pts)
    Game 4: (4th Quarter 1-5 FG, 2 pts) (Overall 13-26 FG 36 pts)
     
  15. zhao1109

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    It because TMAC had to do too many things and someone should help him! TMAC is so so tired and YAO can not keep himself on the court. It's not TMAC's fault. YAO wants to ever be a superstar, now it's his chance!
     
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    If that's the case then for game 5 we have to find a way to allow Tmac to be more fresh so he can deliver in the 4th, otherwise we are in big trouble.
     
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    The problem is Yao was letting Henderson front him and get great defensive position. When he has Henderson or Dirk on him, he needs to get down the court quickly and as soon as possible back in to his defender, and the ball needs to go down to him.

    Yao is just taking too long to set up and get position. That's killing the shot clock and by the time he does get position the ball is not in position to get it to him and one of the guards has to go one on one, or T-Mac has to drive/shoot.

    All the pressure is being put on T-Mac, and rightly so because he really is the star. We could've won either game the way we played offensively...but if Yao gets close to 15 shots we should EASILY win, as long as the defense is there.
     
  18. Man

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    Yeah..Tmac has been doing it all..and hopefully this will be an issue that they address..cuz we've been relying on him the whole game to do everything and be Superman lol. At the end..our guys just expect him to do it all..make shots..and take the shots. It isn't pretty. We go on long droughts. And they break down our defense cuz they have good solid more athletic and stronger players at all 5 positions

    Tmac needs to find a way to save/preserve some good stuff for the 4th quarter. :)
     
  19. YallMean

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    You know you are dreaming, right? :D
     
  20. GATER

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    And Yao didn't foul out by half-time in Game 2 because...? Sorry but you are 100% incorrect. When Yao comes out from the opening tip and establishes early how he's going to play he does not get into foul trouble. When Yao plays passively and then tries to become aggressive later in the game is when the problem occurs.

    And even if my analysis is wrong, I for one would gladly trade Yao fouling out in the first half for the d....d league revisiting how to officiate him.
     

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