Sorry if posted, didn't see if it is. http://www.nba.com/news/Lenovo_Breakdown_061128.html What is the Lenovo Stat? The Lenovo Stat shows the power of teamwork. It's a way of showing the best-engineered/best combination of players on the court. The Lenovo Stat is a plus/minus statistic that looks at the point differential when players are both in and out of the game, to see how the team performs with various combinations. The Lenovo Stat can look at a variety of combinations – including the best two-player, three-player and even five-player combinations for each game. Here is a look at the top Lenovo performers through the fourth week of the 2006-07 NBA season: Five-Player Combination + 76 T. McGrady, R. Alston, S. Battier, Yao, C. Hayes + 62 M. Camby, A. Miller, E. Najera, C. Anthony, J. Smith + 47 P. Pierce, W. Szczerbiak, K. Perkins, S. Telfair, R. Gomes Last week's top three five-player combinations still reign at the top of the Lenovo leaderboard, but the order has been switched around. The Rockets, owners of a three-game winning streak, jumped from second place at +48, to first place at +76. Denver moved from third to second as a five-game unbeaten stretch helped their positive production go from +39 to +62. Boston stayed steady as it dipped only slightly from +49 to +47 to occupy the third spot. Houston, Denver and Boston have a significant lead over their competition as the next closest group is the Bucks' Ruben Patterson, Michael Redd, Maurice Williams, Andrew Bogut and Charlie Villanueva at +35. Four-Player Combination + 82 T. McGrady, R. Alston, S. Battier, C. Hayes + 77 T. McGrady, R. Alston, Y. Ming, C. Hayes + 77 T. McGrady, S. Battier, Y. Ming, C. Hayes + 73 R. Alston, S. Battier, Y. Ming, C. Hayes The Rockets claim the top five four-player combinations after having the group of Tracy McGrady, Rafer Alston, Shane Battier and Chuck Hayes come in tied for second last week at +54. Out of the Rockets' top four four-player sets, amazingly the one constant player is Chuck Hayes and not T-Mac or Yao. Denver is the first team outside of Clutch City to pop up as Marcus Camby, Eduardo Najera, Carmelo Anthony and Joe Smith check in at sixth place with +66. Three-Player Combination + 96 T. McGrady, R. Alston, C. Hayes + 84 R. Alston, Y. Ming, C. Hayes + 83 T. McGrady, S. Battier, C. Hayes The 9-4 Rockets have many believing they will nab a playoff spot in the ultra-competitive Western Conference and Houston has the three-man chemistry to help with that quest. McGrady, Alston and Hayes are the Rockets' top trio, nearing triple digits with a +96 rating. Houston has the top six groups overall. Phoenix has numbers seven and eight with the combinations of Steve Nash, Shawn Marion and Raja Bell as well as Nash, Marion and Leandro Barbosa holding at +72. Two-Player Combination + 103 A. Biedrins, M. Ellis + 101 R. Alston, C. Hayes + 97 T. McGrady, C. Hayes Who are the top duo, you ask? Andris Biedrins, third-year center out of Latvia, is averaging a double-double while Monta Ellis, second-year guard out of Lanier High School in Mississippi, is scoring 17.7 points per game. Golden State is 9-6 and third in the league in scoring, averaging 106.7 points per game, thanks in part to the young coupling of Biedrins and Ellis. Two more Rockets pairs round out the top three. One Player + 105 T. Duncan + 102 C. Hayes + 100 S. Nash For the fourth week in a row, there is a new No. 1 Lenovo individual. Tim Duncan boosted his number from +82 to +105 as the Spurs continue to roll at 11-4 overall. Hayes, who was No. 1 after Week 2, is in second and back-to-back MVP Steve Nash is in third. Last week's top player, Matt Harpring, is in sixth at +83.
It's amazing to see that Juwan still couldn't knock out Chuck Hayes for our most effective 2-3-4-5 man lineups, when Hayes was out for injury.
Other than rebounds, why does Hayes is such a difference maker? How does Leveno calculate it? Does it mean Hayes makes his teammates better?
The Lenovo Stat shows the power of teamwork. It's a way of showing the best-engineered/best combination of players on the court. The Lenovo Stat is a plus/minus statistic that looks at the point differential when players are both in and out of the game, to see how the team performs with various combinations. It's based off of straight up plus/minus point differential when different combos are on the court. Basically if Chuck is on the court we do better than when he's off the court. But that also could imply our backup behind chuck just sucks that bad.
Hayes has a big impact which stats sheet doesn't show. Battier and Hayes are good changes in lineup compare to last year. Our bench still suck.
I think the latter is exactly right. Chuck plays solid D, gets defensive rebounds which limits the other teams second chances, and he isn't a complete liability on offense. he atleast knows what he's doing. Yes he's a stud for his hustle, and effectiveness, but it's got more to do with his backups -- especially compared to our backups at all other positions. battier at the 3, head at the 1/2, deke at the 5 are all solid. vspan has something to prove, but shows much promise, and snyder is missed because he was solid too. juwan is professional..... but he sucks, and doesn't fit the team at all. it would be interesting to see how novaks offense and spacing vs novaks weak team d would fair. i bet chuck's plus/minus would drop a decent amount, though only if tmac/vspan/battier can pick up extra boards.
On defense, Hayes covered up a lot weakness for Yao. Jho couldn't cover his own weakness. On offense, since Hayes is such a good offensive rebounder, opponents have to keep an eye on him, that also make Yao's work a lot easier.
however, keep in mind that his fouling could actually be helping the team. If, for example, when Juwan is in, he is either not fouling and getting scored on, or not fouling and waiting for someone else (Yao) to take the foul. If you have depth, than taking a foul there is better than getting scored on or having Yao foul. The player has to make the 2 free throws first of all, Yao stays out of foul trouble second of all, and it slows down the pace of the game...which, while we don't want it to be a leisurely walk, the Rockets are predominantly a half-court team.
More proof that Hayes makes a huge difference. I am really proud of the young man. If he ever develops a mid-range jumper, wow.
Rockets own up the Lenovo stat. I wonder how other teams fans look at this and take it into consideration. We have the best 5 player, all the top 4 4 player, and top 3 3 player, two of the top 3 2 player, and the 2nd best Lenovo stat individual.
If it's based on +/-, it's more showing of the discrepancy between our starters and our bench than just which players do the most on the court. It seems those teams come out on top in the lenovo stats.
I really think that is something that can be read into these stats. As someone else stated, it's not so much our bench at the other positions, but let's face it, we are *still* weak at the 4. Hayes does everything he can, and I cheer him on, but he's not a starter on most other teams. BUT...without looking at stats or anything we just seem to play better with him on the court. I like how he's tough on himself when he screws up. I mean put RyBo's as any player's backup, he'd have the best +/- in the league. Ouch, low blow...I know.
I don't disagree with what you are saying but I think hayes commits a lot of dumb fouls like yao used to commit. we lack depth at the 4 and we clearly need hayes out there. so somehow he has to clean up his game so he can be out there for 30 to 32 mpg.
We are weak at the four, yet chuck hayes is the only one consistent throughout all the ratings? I dont understand how you can have pure statistical fact in front of you and disagree with it. Of course I am not saying that Hayes is the toast of the PFs in the west, but he has been more than satisfactory this year... and certainly not weak.
Except that so many of Chuck's fouls are bone-headed and unnecessary. If he bumps another guard on the perimeter tonight I'm gonna (insert some act of extreme anger). He's effective because he doesn't overlap with anyone. On offense he stays out of Yao's way, doesn't hog the ball, sets picks and when his man doesn't guard him Chuck will cut to the basket to receive a pass. He will also attack the rim if the lane is wide open. On defense, he's a decent on-ball defender and he's mastered the scheme pretty well. He also rebounds at both ends of the court. I doubt Chuck will ever develop a jump shot, but he doesn't need one to help this team. At this point, his intangible value on the floor is actually greater than Battier's. The huge difference between Chuck and Rybo is Chuck actually helps some on offense and he rebounds. Instead of cutting to the basket and setting good picks, seems like Rybo would stand 15 ft from the basket (unguarded) and do zip. The only thing Rybo ever attempted in 1/2 court were set shots and he couldn't them. It was truly 4 on 5.
