Maybe this is common knowledge, but I didn't know about it. Here's a video of secret military projects that were done by Nazi Germany that seem to be really advanced. Very modern submarines, Rocket planes, and stealth planes, among others. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/noKm-3fGcYU&color1=0x333366&color2=0x666699&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/noKm-3fGcYU&color1=0x333366&color2=0x666699&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
It is pretty common knowledge, to folks who have an interest in history (WW's) or watch history / discovery / military channel. They had some insane stuff being built.
Hitler's hopes for his German empire were extremely aspirational and borderline delusional, yet modernly grandiose.
No matter how much history I read, nothing will ever capture my imagination the war World War II does. The history of the modern world was literally hanging in the balance on few but (in hindsight) incredibly important details. The Germans had the best minds and the best engineers, but they squandered much of it away with their treatment of the Jews, some of whom were the sharpest minds around and many of whom ended up fleeing to the U.S. and USSR and ultimately ended up helping to build nukes for both countries. The pendulum just happened to swing the way of the Allies, but had Germany maintained its imperial ambitions sans the Holocaust and their fanatical Darwinian experiment trying to engineer a perfect race, there is no telling what the world would look like today. They probably would have had nukes first, and Hitler would have definitely used them many times over. I am borderline agnostic myself, but I cannot help but feel at times that an invisible hand was at work at that particular junction of history.
although not a substantial dent was made on the eugenic progression of human engineering, they made their mark, as did the U.S. i am fascinated by what hitler envisioned, and what he actually accomplished, i think there's definitely more to the saga than what can be learned from books and scholars
Well, the holocaust wasn't really the reason they lost, right? If Germany had won West and South first, before trying to invade East into Russia, it might have turned out differently.
Maus was a joke. It couldn't drive over roads or bridges without destroying them and sinking into mud or river or whatever. They only built 2 prototypes. The mega-tank was a total joke. It would have had all of the Maus' problems x1000. You wouldn't have been able to drive it anywhere. It was never a serious project. I think something like 1/3 of Me163 pilots died in crashes. The thing was a total death trap. Of all the superweapons, the Me-262 was awesome and actually delivered positive returns, but even then, the engines averaged about 2 flights before having technical faults requiring them to be replaced. Maybe you can include the StG-44 as another superweapon that delivered returns that were equal or greater to the effort put into it. The reason all these crazy ideas got funding, is that Hitler was convinced that a super weapon would win the war (like gas and tanks in WWI) and so devoted all of Germany's resources to them. They actually hastened the defeat of Germany.
There is a book by a Russian historian using secret Kremlin documents which claims that Stalin was about 6 months away from invading Germany when Hitler beat him to the punch. In other words, the war in the East was inevitable no matter whether Hitler started it or not.
I agree that Hitler jumped the gun on Russia. And I also agree that that was his ultimate downfall. His persecution of the Jews, in my opinion, assisted in his demise in two ways: A: as someone else mentioned, the Jewish population had some brilliant minds. These minds, coupled with German engineering, would have afforded the Germans a great advantage in many technological areas. B: By trying to "rid the world" of the Jewish population, Hitler spent many valuable resources trying to accomplish a goal that was next to impossible. I believe the Holocaust and the War go hand in hand. I think the Holocaust was a catalyst to the War and Hitler's ultimate downfall. As the empire started to expand, Hitler spent more and more resources, which should have gone into the war effort, in his personal quest against the Jews. Has he allocated all of these resources towards the war effort, instead of his own personal gain, I think it would have been a different outcome to the War. I will also say that Hitler, in my opinion, was a complete lunatic. In all his lunacy, though, he was pretty genius. In the end, the lunatic-side overpowered the genius side. He had the ability to be a great ruler, but his schizophrenic style of leadership got in the way....
Once they declared war on the Russian front (their supposed allies) it was over. Most people educated in the West grow up believing that the U.S. was the biggest factor on the German front, when in reality it was the Russian forces that did the heavy lifting. Of course, Japan bore the brunt of U.S. military might.
It is true, Stalin certainly failed on that front. He let his ego get in the way of developing contingency plans in response to an aggressive and threatening German presence.
i dont want to be banned america embraced eugenics and influenced germany's racial theories, of course all teachings were suppressed since ww2 that's all i'll say
I understand, but at least e-mail me through the board. Don't leave me hanging man I think America definitely embraced some elements of eugenics, but I would be interested in hearing your views on this. Admittedly I am not all that knowledgeable about the topic but I was not aware that America influenced Germany's racial theories. I was under the impression it was the other way around. Almost all of the great thinkers or social theorists of the time were Germans, French or British. At least those were the ones whose ideas I was mostly exposed to.
lets be vague about this, the united states of america founded eugenics, subsequently we had the 3 leading minds of eugenics, we exported our 3 scientists to germany and advised the nazis on how to go about executing the eugenics ideas, with worlds top nations bid for the possession of these scientists hitler praised america's eugenics program as something to be modeled after in the 1910s, america pushed eugenics into the mainstream, even with a tinsletown production called tomorrows something, cant recall exact name a movie called endgame will tell you a good portion of the story, i have not yet investigated all the facts in the movie, so it's only just something for your mind to absorb, but the majority of the details in the movie are hard to overlook good luck my friend, find the truth ps: reset your dsl router so the gov't can't track you
This is so true. I remembered this in history class during college. Many Russians who lived through the cold war era resents Americans for holding out until after Pearl Harbor as tens of millions of their Comrades died... then taking most of the credit for defeating the Nazis. We did supply Russia with raw materials but the main thing that did in the Nazi's at the Eastern Front was an unusually long and bitter winter. As for super weapons... The V2 rocket has to be up there. It was virtually useless but it's the precursor to modern rockets, ICBM engines and even space shuttle boosters.
