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Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election'

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  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Why does Nancy Reagan hate America. ;)

    http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4935.shtml

    The widow of former President, and Republican icon, Ronald Reagan has told the GOP she wants nothing to do with their upcoming national convention or the re-election campaign of President George W. Bush.
    Nancy Reagan turned down numerous invitations to appear at the Republican National Convention and has warned the Bush campaign she will not tolerate any use of her or her late husbands words or images in the President’s re-election effort.

    “Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush’s re-election and neither to most members of the President’s family,” says a spokesman for the former First Lady.


    Nancy Reagan
    Reagan’s son, Ron, spoke at the just-concluded Democratic National Convention and writes in next month’s Esquire magazine that “George W. Bush and his administration have taken normal mendacity to a startling new level far beyond lies of convenience. They traffic in big lies.”

    Ron Reagan is joined by his sister Patty in opposing Bush’s re-election effort. Only brother Michael Reagan, a conservative talk show host, supports the President and claims Ron is manipulating his mother.

    Unlike the other Reagan children, Michael is not Reagan’s biological child. He was adopted by Reagan during the actor’s first marriage to actress Jane Wyman and often complains that his stepmother, Nancy, likes Ron best.

    “He is her favorite,” Michael Reagan told Fox News. “Ron can do no wrong. I mean, basically that's it, Ron can do no wrong.”

    Ron, however, claims George W. Bush has destroyed the Republican Party his father helped build.

    “My father, acting roles excepted, never pretended to be anyone but himself,” Reagan writes in Esquire. “His Republican Party, furthermore, seems a far cry from the current model, with its cringing obeisance to the religious right.”

    The Reagans’ split with Bush and the party centers around stem cell research which many believe can help find a cure for Alzheimer’s, the disease that crippled President Reagan in his final years. Bush and the ultra-conservative wing of the Republican Party oppose use of new stem cells. The Reagans, with the exception of Michael, support such use.

    There’s more to the feud than that, however. Nancy Reagan has told close followers she believes Bush and the current Republican leadership have divided America with their extreme views. She has told Republican leaders she wants nothing to do with the party or Bush.

    During the week of Reagan’s funeral, the former First Lady “went ballistic” when she learned the Bush campaign was test marketing new ads that used Reagan’s photos and speeches in an effort to show he supported Bush and his re-election. She personally called Republican Party Chief Ed Gillespie to demand the ads be destroyed.

    Republican strategists admit the ads were produced but never ran. They were pulled after scoring poorly with focus groups where viewers found them in “poor taste.”

    “Mrs. Reagan doesn’t care why the ads were pulled. She just wanted to make sure they never went on the air,” says a spokesman for the First Lady. “She does care about whether or not the memory of President Reagan is used for political purposes.”
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Presidents wives don't matter.
     
  3. Oski2005

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    Michael Reagan sounds like Jan Brady. What a whiney biatch.
     
  4. underoverup

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    Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. :(
     
  5. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Here is some more whining from Michael.

    http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2301121,00.html

    Article Published: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 11:12:51 PM PST


    Michael Reagan bashes brother's stem-cell speech

    By Helen Kennedy
    New York Daily News

    BOSTON -- Conservative radio host Michael Reagan went on TV to criticize his brother's speech here Tuesday and bitterly complain that Nancy Reagan loves him best.
    "He is her favorite," Michael Reagan said on Fox News. "Ron can do no wrong. I mean, basically that's it, Ron can do no wrong."

    Ron Reagan's stem cell research speech to the Democrats -- and Nancy Reagan's dis of an invite to the GOP convention -- sent the Republicans into a tizzy.

    Michael Reagan led the attacks.

    "He is being used by the Democrats," Michael Reagan said. "He is the typical liberal: He hates George Bush."

    Michael, Ronald Reagan's adopted son with first wife Jane Wyman, has long competed with Ron Reagan for the affection of Nancy Reagan. In his 1988 book, "On The Outside Looking In," he wrote that the Reagans never loved him.

    He bashed his brother Wednesday for not attending last week's home-porting ceremony with Nancy for the Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, saying Ron called the ship "a weapon of mass destruction."

    "I honor my father's legacy. I'd just like to have Ron do the same," Michael Reagan said.

    He accused Ron of neglecting his mother, too.

    "At these important engagements she's at, she needs to have her children with her. I can't take the place of Ron or Patti (Davis) at these events," Michael Reagan said.

    Ron Reagan could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

    Besides the personal family feud, there is a political clash going on.

    Michael Reagan strongly opposes stem cell research for religious and ethical reasons, while Nancy Reagan and Ron Reagan believe it promises miracle cures for diabetes, Parkinson's and Alzheimer's, which killed the iconic ex-president.

    The GOP is considering countering Ron Reagan's Democratic speech, and the absence of his mother, by having Michael Reagan speak at the Republican convention in New York next month.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    I never have cared much for Michael Reagan, and the more I find out the less I care for him.
     
  7. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    What a baby.
     
  8. outlaw

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    We don't support your re-election
    We don't need no thought control

    I hope Michael Reagan does speak at the RNC but only if it's about stem cell research and why he's against it.
     
  9. Mulder

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    Never thought I'd agree with Nancy Reagan... good for you Nancy.
     
  10. Deckard

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    Damn, this is big news. I'm not sure I can remember the First Lady of a party icon and former President on the level of Reagan, or heck, on any level, coming straight out and saying she doesn't support the incumbent President of her husband's party in his bid for re-election, based on his record.

    I'm waiting for the spin by our friends on the Right. This is big, big news, folks. And very damning for Bush.
     
  11. Rocketball

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    I don't know how this can be considered big news, as though people in the same family can't hold different views or even change their views throughout their life.

    For instance, Michael Savage is a huge conservative / republican supporter, his wife is a huge liberal / democratic supporter.

    The bottom line is it happens, within families - even within presidential families.
     
  12. Mulder

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    Except that Nancy is the former first lady and the wife of the man many in America feel epitomizes the modern Republican party. The equivalent would be if Hillary came out in 2008 and said she didn't support John Kerry's reelection.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Wonder if we'll hear much about this during the RNC.
     
  14. underoverup

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    I think Nancy also told Bush to --- "Shove it". :)
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    Nah, this thread would be 10 pages by now if she would've. Civil discourse isn't fun to debate! :D
     
  16. giddyup

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    What did any of you know about Nancy Reagan's politics before now... other than her marriage to Ronald Reagan-- if that even means anything?
     
  17. ron413

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    What if she does not support John Forbes Kerry as well.

    Huh, huh. How is that for spin?
     
  18. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    To be honest with you, it really doesn't matter to me what her (or any other first lady's) politics are.

    The interesting thing is that the Bush administration and the GOP were desperate to have her speak on the GOP convention to counter Ron Reagan and she pretty much told them to "shove it".
     
  19. Mulder

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    That would be expected for her not to support JFK, but for her to not only not speak at the convention but also to say don't use my or my husband's [a former President's] image or words AND that she doesn't support a incumbent Republican President's bid for re-election is huge.
     
  20. Rocketball

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    Mulder,

    You are right, it is very interesting news and not something that I am sure the Bush campaign wants to hear. But, I would not consider it BIG news, unless, I guess your on the Kerry campaign.

    But to be fair to your analogy, you are comparing a first lady to that of another first lady who is presently an acting senator, that is a huge difference. This would be more along the lines of Jaqueline Onasis (sp?), Ladybird Johnson, so on and so on saying the same thing.

    That being said, my first thought when I read it was "who cares?" I like to believe I select someone based on what they stand for, not for who somebody else likes or dislikes.
     

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