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Nader: Greens considering backing Democrat in 2004

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  1. mc mark

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    Party has to build local, state support, he says

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Green Party's candidate for president in 1996 and 2000 confirms that some in the party are considering not running a presidential candidate in 2004.

    "That's still a minority position, but they are discussing it around the country," Ralph Nader told CNN on Saturday.

    Recent news reports have said the party has considered supporting a Democratic candidate for president in the hopes of ousting President Bush from the White House, but the idea remains a matter of discussion, Nader said.

    "I think the future of the Green Party has to be built on local and state candidates," Nader said, adding, "although presidential candidates can give a small third party more visibility."

    Nader, who never registered as a Green Party member despite running on the party's ticket, says he hasn't decided if he wants to run for president again.

    "It's too early to decide; I don't like long campaigns," he said.
    He also said he opposes seeing a two-party campaign in 2004.

    "I think there's got to be a third or fourth or fifth political party because the American people are not given adequate choice of agendas, of futures for the country, of candidates, and the two parties run a money campaign," he said. "Basically they spend more of their time trying to raise money from the fat cats than [they] do to try to raise the expectations and the involvement of the American people."
     
    #1 mc mark, Jun 1, 2003
  2. glynch

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    Hey that sounds promising. If they get realistic about presidential politics I'll go back to voting for many of their local candidates.
     
    #2 glynch, Jun 1, 2003
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    If the brain trust had made this decision in 2000----NADER! grumble grumble grumble.
     
    #3 underoverup, Jun 1, 2003
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    What a sellout!! The Green Party and the moderate Democrats have little in common.
     
    #4 johnheath, Jun 1, 2003
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    The dumba$$ waited too late to have one miniscule, intelligent thought in his ego-obsessed brain.

    God, the man makes me hurl.


    (I'm talking about Nader, JH. ;) )
     
    #5 Deckard, Jun 1, 2003
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    Ralph Nader is one of the most amazing people of the last 50 years -- he's why there are seatbelts and airbags in your car. His work led directly to the Clear Air Act and EPA. He also responsible for the Freedom of Information Act and OSHA.

    I hope the Greens do run again in 2004. And blaming Nader for their 2000 election is absolutely ridiculous. If the Democrats had, I dunno, APPEALED TO THEIR PARTY, they would have won the presidency in a landslide.

    Blaming Nader for the Democrats' loss is like blaming a heckler for a Rockets loss.

    But that horse has been been beaten. It will definitely be interesting to see how the 2004 election shapes up.
     
    #6 GreenVegan76, Jun 1, 2003
  7. KingCheetah

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    If Ralph spent as much time promoting his party as he does himself they would be much farther along and able to run in 2004. The simple fact about the 2000 elections is if Nader who shares many of the same views on the environment as Gore had dropped out we wouldn't be dealing Bush and the second coming of the NWO. Nader one of the greatest people of the last 50 years I disagree. As for airbags/seatbelts I think German automakers started that movement long before Nader began crowing about a 55 mph speed limit etc.

    btw- Hecklers can cause loses and legal problems...think Vernon Maxwell and Charles Barkley.
     
    #7 KingCheetah, Jun 1, 2003
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    You are very wrong. Nader considered Clinton/Gore to be failures at environmental protection.

    http://www.debatethis.org/gore/enviro/naderopenletter.html#globalwarming

    If Nader really thinks that the enemy of his enemy is his friend, then he has given up on his political causes. I respected him once, even though I disagreed with many of his stances. This is a sad day for the thousands of people who worked so hard to make a difference.
     
    #8 johnheath, Jun 1, 2003
  9. KingCheetah

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    Reading your posts johnheath is about as intellectually stimulating as reading a script from dumb and dumber 2. Take some more time read up on the policies of both men and you will clearly see similarities. You posted an article during the election period so naturally it is highlighting even the slightest deviances that seperate the two men running against each other for president. If the Green party and the Democrates are so far apart on the issues why is Nadar supporting them in the 2004 election? Gore's environmental policies are much stronger than any of the current crop of Dems. Though Nadar will never come close to being elected president if he were, his policies would be eaten alive, and much less would be accomplished for environmental protection than under the Clinton/Gore administration. Not that any of this matters, you support the president with one of the worst environmental records in the history of the country. You are very wrong johnheath.
     
    #9 KingCheetah, Jun 2, 2003
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    You read that script? Wow, you have patience!
    Policies mean NOTHING!! Actions are all that I care about, and Clinton/Gore had a terrible environmental record. The Green Party correctly pointed out that Bush 1 was better on the environment than Clinton. http://awog.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$88

    LOL, the article showed a CHASM of difference.

    ....because Nader, not "Nadar", is SELLING OUT.
    G.W. has "one of the worst environmental records in the history of the country"?? Wow, he must work quickly to destroy the environment, after all, he has only been in office for a short time! LOL, you are hysterical (and I don't mean funny).

    btw, could you enlighten me as to why you consider G.W.'s record to be so nefariously horrible? I could use a good laugh this Monday.
     
    #10 johnheath, Jun 2, 2003
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    I'd sooner read that script, than an another of your long-winded pointless rebuttals.
     
    #11 KingCheetah, Jun 2, 2003
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    You forgot the part where you back up your assertions.

    Oh well, I will go get my humor elsewhere.
     
    #12 johnheath, Jun 2, 2003
  13. KingCheetah

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    Just keep rereading your posts eventually you'll see the humor...
     
    #13 KingCheetah, Jun 2, 2003
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