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Mysterious pic from WTC tragedy.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by kidrock8, Sep 17, 2001.

  1. kidrock8

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    I'd guess it's just something that exploded from the right hand tower and shot a piece of debris through the air.
     
  3. Vengeance

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    Someone just pointed this out to me -- I watched the video numerous times, and you can see it cast a shadow on the first building. It is DIRECTLY in the line of the plane -- had it not hit the building, the object would've hit the aircraft.

    It's no piece of debris -- I wrote it off as that at first as well, but if you watch the first building VERY closely, you will see it cast a shadow on it as this object passes by. If you'd like, I can do a freezeframe, and post pics. I won't get to it until tomorrow, but it is distinguishable -- the shadow travels at the same speed as the object, and in the same path.

    My guess -- the military saw the plane and fired at it about 5 seconds too late -- just a TINY bit earlier, and the plane would've been destroyed without hitting the tower.
     
  4. ZRB

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    It looks like what's left of the body of the plane that went straight through the building.

    *Never mind, I just read through that again.
     
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  5. Vengeance

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34238,00.html

    Watch the "East Angle" video of the second airplane crash. I just watched it again, and I noticed that you can actually see this object create a stronger trail THROUGH THE SMOKE OF THE FIRST EXPLOSION.

    I'll try to get some pics posted asap.
     
  6. Vengeance

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    Oh, and there are actually 2 objects -- one is white -- that is a piece of debris, no question. It travels slowly, and arcs as it falls to the ground.

    But there is this black object (I swear it's a projectile of some sort) that goes by first. It is clearly not debris.
     
  7. mrpaige

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    It's too big to be a missile, though (at least any kind of missile that would be on a fighter). The black object would be larger than the jumbo jets. It's about as big as the width of the building itself.

    All reports are that there weren't any American military planes in the vicinity at the time of the second crash, either
     
  8. Coach AI

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    Ok that is very strange.

    Man, I don't know if I can handle any more questions about this whole thing.... :(
     
  9. outlaw

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    maybe it came from the grassy knoll?
     
  10. mrpaige

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    You're in on it, obviously.

    Something like that could only come from the Triple Overpass.
     
  11. B-ball freak

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    Perhaps it is not a missile but a craft instead. How fast can a Stealth go?
     
  12. R0ckets03

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    It certainly does not look like debris. I think B ball freak has the best idea so far. It does look sort of like a Stealth fighter. Stealths travel at what about 4 Mach?
     
  13. Vengeance

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    If it were going faster than the speed of sound, people would've heard sonic booms on the ground. There's no way someone could be traveling that quickly and be able to pull up before hitting the ground, or in this case possibly the water.

    The airplane you'd be referring to in this instance is the F117, which is not an air to air fighter.

    I'm gonna see what the networks say about it today, but I still believe it is a missile/projectile of some sort. It is directly in line with the aircraft -- had the aircraft gone another 500 feet, this object would've hit it. As far as the size is concerned, it could be motion blur, and the object isn't really that big. Perhaps it's a missile from the missile defense system (the prototype one that was being tested recently).
     
  14. Vengeance

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    Oh, another thing -- the F-117 is not a particularly FAST jet either. It's top speed is "<a href="http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/F_117A_Nighthawk.html">High Subsonic</a>".

    Now, I suppose it's possible this is one of those aircraft we don't know about?
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    You only break the speed barrier once, so therefore hearing the sonic boom once, unless you drop less than (appx) Mach 1?

    If thats the case, it could have boomed miles away. But in that case, it would have not been found on the camera.
     
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    OK, barring an MIB do the little flashy thing and make everyone lose their memory, wouldn't somebody have reported something as large as a plane (or missile) flying right through the place everyone would've been looking at that time. And on all the video, wouldn't something have been noticeable coming in right on the tail of the plane. I mean on some of the video there is a pretty wide shot from the side of the second plane coming in which should've made anything coming from behind the plane fairly apparent. I'm inclined to believe it's an optical illusion or a fake or something until real evidence is presented (at which time I would stand corrected).
     
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    The video was provided by Gamma Press & they seem to be the only one that caught this mysterious projectile on film. I've looked at several videos of the second plane hitting in slow motion & none of the others have it in there. I'm begining to think that they added the projectile to it.

    Does anyone know anything about Gamma Press? Are they legit? Have any of the networks examined this film very closely or reported it on the news? I watched the reports pretty much all day Tuesday through Thursday & quite a bit since then, & not once have I seen them show this video.

    It would seem to me that, if this is legit, the other news channels would've been all over it.
     
  18. firecat

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    Space Ghost,

    A sonic boom doesn't just happen once when the sound barrier is broken. It only happens once to the person that hears the jet. Since the jet is flying at the speed of sound, it's sound waves build up to one big boom that the listener hears. I don't think that I've explained it well, but maybe someone else can explain it better.

    If the jet was flying super sonic, the crowd would hear the boom.

    My computer sucks and I can't get the video to work, so I can't see what everyone else is seeing. I find it hard to believe that if there was a missile, no one had seen it. Even still, had there been a missile that missed the plane, it must hit something. Where did it hit?

    It's probably an illusion. If it was a plane, someone would definitely have seen it, super sonic or not.
     
  19. Ty_Webb

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    looks like a Chupacabra driving the Millennium Falcon, probably on its way to do some crop circling.

    get a grip people.

    You folks believe what Art Bell says dont you?

    LOL!
     

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