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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thegary, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. Xopher

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    no worries, honest mistake. I just didn't think that was really the point @StupidMoniker was making, but perhaps it's best for him to explain it himself.
     
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    I think you had an error in reading comprehension. I said that Biden spent a lot of money (10.5 trillion dollars in two years) and that when someone has very high budgets that tends to go hand in hand with low unemployment. No where did I say the entire budget was job creation. You have argued against a straw man. In fact, I compared the unemployment numbers now to 2019 when there were similar unemployment numbers and a lower (but still far too high) budget.
    The job losses all occurred in 2020. Something else happened in 2020. Let's see if you can figure out the correlation.
     
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  4. Xopher

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    You need to re-read your post. You specifically said 875,000 dollars per job were spent. There was no reason to bring spending into the conversation. However, if you are going to then you need to differentiate between the budgets of the previous 2 years back to when unemployment was 3.5% and the budget in the time the jobs were gained. What was the difference in the budgets?
     
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    875,000 per job gained were spent. They weren't all spent on job creation, that was the budget.
    There is no need to bring spending into a conversation about government and unemployment? Did you think Biden was a job fairy that granted employment wishes? Employment is spending by public and private entities on labor.
    I differentiated between where the country was in 2019 and where it is now. The difference in budgets was substantial in the interim.
     
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    This is so utterly pathetic. Jared kusher should teach hunter how to really commit fraud.

    The GOP is so desperate its just sad
     
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    I am so tired of them trotting out and making allegations with no proof, if any of them broke the law, then prosecute. They have such a hard on for Biden and family because their beloved cult master is about to be picked apart by REAL investigations. Distract.....Distract.......Distract
     
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    They laugh when they see @basso @Commodore . They know they can program them to think and say whatever they want. These folks for 2 years were claiming they had ground breaking evidence on hunter and biden.

    It's been 4 months and they don't have a God damn thing lolol. Their so naive with their conspiracies its hilarious
     
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    "We don't have evidence" but our braindead supporters are too dumb to know it is an amazing take.

    This is what yall hyped up for years???
     
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    have shared this before

     
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    At some point over the next 6 years you'll realize everything you're hearing is bullshit and you're being sold a grift. They havnt found one single thing connecting biden to any transaction or any deal.

    They found hunter biden getting money from overseas entities which is shaddy but not illegal in any way shape of form. If it was then jared and Don Jr would literally be in prison right now.

    You have nothing on biden. It's all a smoke screen. You're being sold a grift. We were being told by right wing trolls it was this massive conspiracy pay for play scheme which all turned out to be lies.
     
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    yeah, I'm not really the story here
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-...biden-family-china-c0c506c7?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    The Biden Family Business
    A House report shows how Hunter and relatives profited while Joe was Vice President.
    By The Editorial Board
    May 10, 2023 at 6:53 pm ET

    House Republicans on Wednesday released their latest report on the Biden family’s business ties, and one conclusion is that it’s good to be related to Joseph Robinette Biden. Hunter Biden and his relatives traded profitably off the Biden name with transactions that suggest the main family business is influence peddling.

    House Oversight Chair James Comer’s staff report shows in detail that Hunter had extensive dealings with unsavory foreign actors. This yielded millions of dollars for Biden family members via a web of shell companies that would be hard to untangle without subpoena power. Why so much complexity?

    The 36-page report shows Biden family members and business associates created nearly 20 separate entities shortly before and during Joe Biden’s Vice Presidency. The entities with obscure names—Hudson West III, Hudson West V, Owascu, JBB SR INC—transferred cash from foreign entities. Bank records show that more than $10 million was delivered to Biden family members, associates and companies from these foreign entities, and in curious ways.

    In some cases “Biden associates would receive significant deposits from foreign sources,” then “transfer smaller, incremental payments to Biden bank accounts,” the report says. These “complicated and seemingly unnecessary” transactions appeared to be an “effort to conceal the source and total amount received from the foreign companies.”

    Some payments came from such shady characters as Chinese national Ye Jianming, his associates, and his company CEFC. Mr. Ye had a background in Chinese military intelligence and used CEFC to promote President Xi Jinping’s agenda globally. One of Mr. Ye’s deputies, Patrick Ho, was convicted in the U.S. in 2018 on international bribery and money laundering.

    Mr. Ye’s emissary to the U.S., Gongwen Dong, in 2017 established a corporate entity with Hunter—each with 50% ownership. Over 14 months the entity dispersed more than $4 million to Hunter-related companies and another $75,000 to companies related to the President’s brother, James Biden. Mr. Dong used a separate set of complex corporate entities and transfers to send Hunter another $100,000 payment.

    In 2017 another Ye-related company—State Energy HK—paid some $3 million to Hunter’s business associates. At least $1 million was then funneled in 16 separate payments over three months to five different bank accounts, all related to the Biden name. They included companies associated with Hunter and James Biden, an unknown bank account identified simply as “Biden” and a payment to Hallie Biden—the widow of Hunter’s deceased brother Beau and later Hunter’s girlfriend.

    The report lays out a similarly complex web of payments to Hunter and associates from an entity that appears to be connected to a Romanian businessman who has been convicted of bribery. In total, Mr. Comer says the committee has identified at least nine Biden family members that received foreign income, including Hunter, James, James’s wife Sara, Hallie, Hunter’s ex-wife (Kathleen Buhle), Hunter’s current wife (Melissa Cohen), and three children or grandchildren of Joe or James.

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    The Bidens have a right to make a living, but one important question is what Hunter did to earn these payments. Hunter’s spokespersons aren’t saying, and his attorney scorned the Comer report as “repackaged misstatements of perfectly proper meetings and business by private citizens.” But a fair conclusion is that these foreigners were buying influence with a powerful family.

    Emails and text messages made public in 2020 by former Hunter business partner Tony Bobulinski—related to a separate attempted deal with CEFC—quote Hunter demanding more because CEFC is “coming to be MY partner to be partners with the Bidens,” and noting that “I’m the only one putting an entire family legacy on the line.” In another email reported by the New York Post, Hunter boasted that Mr. Ye would pay him millions for “introductions alone.”

    The press is mostly dismissing the report because it reveals no evidence that President Biden received any money. But the committee has already exposed that Joe Biden dissembled in 2020 when he claimed that “my son has not made money in terms of this thing about—what are you talking about—China. I have not had it. The only guy that made money from China is this guy,” referring to Donald Trump. Mr. Comer isn’t done, and we shall see where the money trail leads.

    The report shows the Biden family profiting from Joe Biden’s political power. Payments from Chinese nationals are also a familiar way that the Communist Party has tried to compromise America’s political class. There may not be a smoking gun, but there’s plenty of suspicious smoke worth investigating.

    Appeared in the May 11, 2023, print edition as 'The Biden Family Business'.



     
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    Everyone knows that the Bidens offer top end consulting services. From gymnastic coaching to the Romanians to his grandkids offering tech advice to the Chinese, this money will be easily traced back to legit goods and services. Oh, and Trump.
     
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    This isn’t anything that wasn’t known before. Yes Hunter Biden profited off of his dads name. What wasn’t stated was that Joe Biden as VP wasn’t engaged in any use of his office to specifically benefit Hunter Biden. Such as redirecting military personal to stay at his properties.
     
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    Can you seriously believe @Commodore @basso @Astrodome tried spinning baseless conspiracies for 40+ pages with nothing to show. Its unbelievable how stupid the grift us.
     
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    Everything in this thread is about you and all your conspiracies you spewed for 40+ pages. All turned out to be bullshit
     
  20. Os Trigonum

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    at times you seem like an angry person
     
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