Its been proven over the last few decades unless you have a top 5 player you cant win the championship(hakeem,shaq,kobe,jordan,duncan) unless however you have a bunch of borderline allstars(1989/2004 pistons) or a few allstars but no superstar (spurs/celtics) pg-he was once termed a sg in a pg's body,can shoot the 3 really well,space the floor and penetrate to score in traffic-Billups-ours is Aaron Brooks sg-6'7 sg that can score at will, score from anywhere and create and limitless energy,poor defense,injury prone,doesnt pass-Richard Hamilton- ours is Kevin Martin sf-6'8 skinny wirey long armed plays passing lanes,poor dribbler,can shoot the 3,athletic block or steals,can dunk in traffic-tayshaun prince-ours is Ariza pf- muscleman,cant be moved on post,great post defender,rebounds,but cant shoot a free throw or shot outside 2 feet-ben wallace-ours is Chuck Hayes c-high post shooting bigman,rebounds and can get you 20/10,cant dribble,can spread the floor with his shooting,-rasheed wallace-ours is Yao ming Obviously Im not saying Hayes is a clone of Wallace or that Yao is Rasheed, but I see similiar skillsets at every position. We obviously arent going for 3 Hall of Famers like Garnett/pierce/allen or getting Lebron or Kobe. Yao isnt Hakeem like 1994 . We have no choice but to follow the pistons model and have a bunch of stars or borderline stars. Brooks should have been an allstar this year. brooks/yao/martin could be considered a "big 3" depending on who you ask. we still need a backup pf . a package of battier/budinger/scola could net us a very good pf or maybe just trade 1 of our sg/sf's for a backup pf like Tyrus thomas.
This is what i always thought we were trying to become not just one or 2 really good players and a bunch of role players but a collection of good players at every position who knew how to play as a team and ultimatley knew how to win
it's just a coicidence, he's trying to get adelman players he can fit in his system... wallace was a lot more above the rim than chuck...wallace spread out the floor all the way tot he 3 pt line...
I've mentioned how this team could become a modern Pistons team with the talent it had assembled. This trade is another step toward that. I'm not saying that was the goal but I do think it was more realistic for the organization to try to get a bunch of good or really good players as opposed to chasing a top five NBA player who was never coming here. You can't really compare the Rockets to that Pistons team player by player but the overall balance and depth of talent is getting closer.
Ya, I thought the same thing when I saw Houston acquire Martin. It's obvious Houston wasn't going to get the game changer they wanted so Martin seems like a decent plan B to build a team of solid guys who can all make you pay if you make a mistake. ...I'll say this about that Pistons teams though. It was a different time. The hand check rule change really puts the Wade, Lebron, and Kobes of the world at a bigger advantage than in year's past. I'm not saying that can't be a successful model still, but it's not proven in the post hand check landscape(see Wade's title year).
nope. we're still the traditional adleman kings team Yao-webber- big man run the offense through Scola-Divac- space the floor ariza/battier- christie- defense martin/peja- scorer lowry/bibby- run offense brooks/jackson- sparkplug
like the comparison in the sense that we can get a banner but not in the sense of the pistons since they fell apart and fell hard.
Billups (playmaker) and Wallace (top 5 defense of all time) were that pistons team 100% as you saw when wallaces health fell off and billups got moved. Those are also the 2 pieces rockets don't have. Not the pistons at all.
traditional adelman team? who is our drexler on this traditional team? i don't think we have a porter or cliff robinson on this team.
I would say we're the the Houston Rockets and Morey is spreading the talent and money between multiple GOOD players, not allstars or super stars... some can be allstars, but that's some. The idea is to spread the risk. The organization is burned by Yao and Tmac's injures and really is afraid of diva syndrome.
Is Morey building us like the 2003 Pistons? Is Morey building us like the 2003 Pistons? A deep and versatile blue collar team that plays the right way with teamwork. Brooks/Lowry KMartin/Budinger/Taylor Ariza/Battier Scola/Hill/Jeffries Yao/Hayes/Andersen with Yao Billups/Hunter/Sura Hamilton/James Prince/C.Williamson R.Wallace/D.Ham/ B.Wallace/Okur/E.Campbell
i'm getting tired of people posting threads about their latest thought on the Rockets. please stop. it's ridiculous.
I don't think Morey has a "blueprint" or a specific team in mind when putting this team together. He acquires the best fit for the team and uses his research to make that decision.
Some people think we're like the Pistons. Some think we're like the Pacers. Some think we're like the Kings. Or, maybe... just MAYBE... Morey is just building Houston to be the best team it can be?
Interesting thought. Hmm..do you think that team will be able to win a championship? I'd still like an additional big man PF/C or SF/PF
Yeah, I can see that, and we've heard in the past how we want to emulate some aspects of the Spurs' model...or was that during the JVG days? i'm sure all teams benchmark each other and implement some of the good things they see......except for maybe some teams with poor management/coaching.
I really don't get the Piston comparisons anymore??? I like the comparisons to the mid 90's Pacers and 00's Spurs those sounds more like it to me.
