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Morey, please sign a decent PF first before signing Lewis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Queeni, Jul 1, 2007.

  1. Queeni

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    Morey, please sign a decent PF first before signing Lewis. PF is our #1 priority. Considering Lewis is fine, but signing him first may make us lose the assets we could use to sign a decent PF.

    I also think signing Lewis will be a move that will hurt Rockets eventually. The reasons are:

    1. Lewis is bad defender. There is no good meter of individual defense and most of us didn't see Lewis play season long. But if one googles "Rashard Lewis defense", one will see how good Lewis' defense is. Signing him (a SF, the same position as T-Mac and Battier) will highly need trade our best perimeter defender Battier away and sacrifice our team's defense. Battier is also a better 3pt shooter (.421 vs Lewis' .390) in the 06-07 season (Battier's number went up to .442 in this playoff). Battier is the Rockets version of Spurs' Bowen and will be very valuable for our championship runs.

    2. The current Rockets have enough offensive power, adding Lewis won't help much offensively. Besides Yao and T-Mac, we now have established offensive power in Wells (not appearing in this playoff) and James. Wells and James are both proven playoff offensive threats. Adding Lewis will only hurt team chemistry for competing for shot attempts. Remember that Spurs moved Manu Ginobili from starting lineup to bench and Spurs became a better team this season?

    Morey, I agree with you that Rockets is only one or two pieces away from a contender. Getting Lewis does not address it and very possibly need trading Battier away, which will make Rockets further away from a contender. I also agree with you that an elite team has a balance of offense and defense. Getting Lewis does not improve our offense much while sacrificing our defense a lot if Battier becomes the trade asset. So please get a decent PF first before seriously considering Lewis.
     
  2. TMac#1

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    1. There are no good PFs to sign.
    2. Shane Battier is an overrated defender who can only do 3 things, hit corner 3s and take charges, and also give up 53 points to kobe twice. It is OK to have a Bruce Bowen, only because the Spurs have Parker, Ginobli and Duncan to go with him.
    3. Rashard Lewis won't help the offense. A 23 point scorer who is 6'10'' and shoot the lights out and finish won't help the offense?? :confused:

    Battier is very overrated, I didn't like the deal when we got him, and I won't be that sad when he leaves. Sorry.
     
  3. BaMcMing

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    With regards to Shane, the question now is whether or not he is a Rick Adelman type of player. ?

    Question aside, Shane and Chuck were my two favorite Rockets last year simply because of the way they played. But we all can see after the draft that management is re shaping the roster as best they can with players that have the skills to play in Rick's open offense. Obviously, Shane is not fast or very athletic. He was certainly a Jeff Van Gundy type player, but how well will he fit with Rick?

    Morey must believe that Rashard will be a more valuable player for us in Rick's system. Whether or not he is right, remains to be seen.
     
  4. Nice Rollin

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    I agree. We need to stop with this Rashard Lewis stuff. We're wasting our time. He's not coming to Houston...

    Lets go get Mikki Moore
     
  5. cdrive

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    if we have steve francis, tmac, rashard lewis, and yao ming in the starting line up, we can have JL3 play the power forward for all i care.
    one can dream right? crazier things have happened like finley loading up the spurs.
     
  6. Shroopy2

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    1. Rashard's defense is questionable. But it wasn't much an issue with Peja Stojakovich in Adelman's system when they were going to conference finals against the would-be champion Lakers. (though they did have Doug Christie). Battier isn't much of a power forward anyways?

    Shane Battier was a similar .390 3pt shooter before Houston. If (a 3% IF) Rashard Lewis were a Rocket, expect a similar rise in percentage with Tmac and Yao getting him more open looks.

    2. The Rockets once had a total of FOUR players score points in a playoff game this past series. This team needs as much offensive firepower as it can get. The one person who might would harm the chemistry is Mike James cuz he's a shoot-first PG, and not Rashard. Bonzi has absolutely NO gripe to make whatsoever about deserving shot attempts. He is a bad month of basketball away from getting cut. Ginobili moving to the bench...well, that's what Mike James can do similarly.

    You can get away with a low cost rent-a-vet power forward with Rashard on the team. I'd definitely prefer to take my chances with him, rather than wasting a whole offseason wishing and hoping an equally talented PF goes on the market.
     
  7. GermanRoxFan

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    points against rashard lewis:

    - he is soft
    - he is a below average rebounder
    - he is a weak defender
    - he is not a pf and should not play this position
    - he would demand a lot of shots on a team that already has t-mac, yao, bonzi and mike james taking a lot of shots
    - he will earn maximum money
    - he will cost us shane battier and additional players in a trade


    i just can't imagine any scenario where a sign and trade for rashard lewis would help this rockets team. it would be different story if lewis would take mle money. but since this is not gonna happen the rockets should focus on improving the team without getting rashard lewis.
     
  8. R0ckets03

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    Dont worry I will.
     
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    You're right, no Lewis, but instead of Moore we need to get Lawrence Roberts from the Grizzlies. He grew up in Houston so he'd be popular with the fans, and he has good game in the low blocks. He would be perfect next to Yao.
     
  10. Barkley

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    Morey please make a trade with Chris Wilcox...
     
  11. Yetti

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    Just to remind everyone that there is a slight possibility that Morey is playing the game. Orlando is a strong suiter for Lewis so Morey is pushing up the price so that Orlando overpays and we can stand a much better chance of making a deal for Darko, who will be much more within our price range. :p
     
  12. CriscoKidd

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    You don't have to worry about Morey signing Lewis. It isn't going to happen.
     
  13. Dave_78

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    Lewis is a (very) poor man's Tmac.

    This team needs things other than a one-dimensional, often injured, soft SF. It needs to add some bulk and athleticism at the PF and it needs to ship out these scrub guards and bring in a competent one.
     
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    I agree. The wow factor certainly is there when you put Tmac, Yao, and Rashard Lewis in the same sentence but he is soft like Yao and more of a finesse player like TMac, both of which led to Utah having a field day inside and would have much likely been the same story with both Golden State and San Antonio. Also, you can't be sure the chemistry would be right (remember Pippen, Barkley, Hakeem?). We need a big, athletic, enforcing-type PF (Chris Wilcox will do nicely) while keeping the rest of our good players including Battier and adding some more depth. However, I don't think either is going to happen.
     
  15. t-mac4bigmac

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    I agree. This is the same way I feel with Vince Carter.
     
  16. redhova

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    Why does everyone say Rashard is a bad defender he played Mc Grady very well in 2004 when he was healthy. I think he may need to work on his team defense but he is a good as a man defender as anyone currently on this team. Battier did not exactly slow down Matt Harpring in the Utah series the only edge he has over lewis is he keeps Yao out of foul trouble we can get another player to that and be more talented on offense.
     
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    I am wondering if this may be a strategy as well.
     
  18. redhova

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    Smart thinking Orlando either overpays Lewis or commits to Darko and for this reason I think one of them could end up in a Houston uniform. Besides would it really be better to overpay Vareajo than Rashard because he is a PF? Not to me we need talent as much as we need a power forward. Shaq had Samaki Walker as a power forward. Tim did it with Oberto we do not need Elton Brand as much as we need overall talent and if we have any chance to get Rashard and say a Joe Smith with the LLE and still have the MLE then no question should take it.
     
  19. rpr52121

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    One thing about R. Lewis is that he seems to be a volume player on offense. Does better when he gets more touches.

    The other thing about bringing R. Lewis that I feel he will be way to expensive. We have very few "players" on our team who really bring an expertise to the table, and no matter whether you like or dislike Battier he does bring very good defense, etc. Whether we have to enter into Lux. Tax or make a S&T, i feel that we will be giving up too much for one player, and then even less room to fill our other holes.
     
  20. tsunami

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    Battier is very overrated? How much Rockets pay him? And how much Lewis is asking for? Tell me who is overrated?
     

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