i almost forgot...my boy also told me morey has added nearly 15-20 part and full time statisticians trying to be able to best predict who can play and who cant play on the nba level. this is thinking outside the box and to me has already paid huge dividends. lets give les the credit he deserved on this one...morey is way ahead of the pack and is proving to be an excellent hire.
Right on. There are other guys like Colangelo who are known for thinking outside the box with looking at brain types of players for example. Statistics help and I'm aware that Morey looks beyond that as well but he has a long way to go before he can be called the best GM in the business IMO.
i dont think people are giving morey enough credit. great drafts, great coaching hire, great trades...hes a damn genius!!!
Based on WHAT you 'y'-happy rook? Sometimes being a contrarian doesn't pay off. Reasons make an argument. Extra y's are not witty or cool. They don't even make any damn sense as a point of view. Where do you give the credit? To what do you attribute our recent draft success or our high seasonal win totals? If you bring up our first round exits, you are the Steven A Smith of suck. And I only mean that in a literal way.
He did a great job getting Scola,Landry. Brooks can pan out to be a good player too. I'm happy he gambled by taking a chance on a athletic tall forward like Greene but no one knows if the kid has it in him to learn from his immaturity.
Go ahead rook. Do the excessive periods make your argument? You've got more periods than an annoying girlfriend.
I literally spit out a little oreo shake on that one. LOL Morey is doing a great job with the chances he has gotten.
did dean cooper play much part in choosing these drafted players??? cos if not then his departure hopefully wont mean much
HayJon you just made my night. Word up to all rookies, do not debate with Hayjon. He will win. I wonder how many stats people that are in that 15-20 that were hired from that ad that was posted a while back. I remember some of the people here were going to try for the position, but I can't remember what the topic was that they had to write about to apply (obviously something statistical, but maybe I can search for the post later). I don't know about anyone else, but when I can logically and rationally understand the moves a GM makes, it makes me happy.
I'll admit that Morey's doing more with what he has than Dawson did but to say he's "way ahead" of the pack is kind of silly.
I've got to agree. We won 22 games in a row last year and missed Yao for 10 of those. Rockets won 55 games overall (after that horrid 13-15 start) and would have def made atleast the 2nd round with a healthy Yao. Let's recount the great moves in this early gm's career.... -Landry, who turned out to be a great pick up, with an early 2nd round pick. Let's face it, he wasn't on any fan's radar but proved to be huge until his knee injury. He even won us a playoff game on a bum knee. Morey is playing hardball with Landry's r****d agent and I bet we'll get him back at good value. -Vspan, who was going to leave us high and dry anyway, for the best power forward we've had since Otis Thorpe in Luis Scola. Btw, next to Yao in the starting lineup, the Rockets are undefeated. He'll only get better next year with a full year under his belt in the NBA and in RA's offense. -Brooks, showed flashes but undecided at this point but could prove to be a decent back up with a late first round pick... -Steve Francis. Hey, it didn't/hasn't work(ed) out, but that's not Morey's fault. Atleast he won us that Pheonix game but looked horrible in RA's system. That's on the player, not the GM who made it happen. -Bonzi and Mike James for Bobby Jackson. Some people might not like this trade but until we see what we get for Bjax's expiring this year, this looks like a better choice than to have Mike James under contract for another couple years. Wells was inconsistant and wasn't going to be with us next year anyway. I think this will prove to be a great and underrated move that will result in a great midseason/deadline deal. -Draft '08. Donte Greene looks like a great project and showed a lot of potential in his 40pt game. Dorsey gives us some attitude and the ability to finish around the basket, something Hayes can't do very well. Leunen was the biggest surprise to me in summer league at the 54th pick. Now, a very incomplete grade on the draft so far but to get glimpses of the potential in all of these guys who Morey wheeled and dealed for gives me hope for the present and the future. By the way, we basically turned our 26th pick into the guy we wanted, an extra 2nd round pick in Dorsey and a Memphis 2nd round pick in '09. That happened so fast and in retrospect, that was a pretty amazing feat in such a short amount of time. -For the Rocket's organization, he got the squad under the LT and a $3 million or so bonus for the team. If I'm Les, I'm happy about that. The GM is doing his job and a fine one at that. I don't see any Moochie Norris or Kelvin Cato type players/contracts on this team at the moment. I know it will be easy to root for this team both next season and for many seasons down the road with the amount of thought that Morey is displaying in a lot of the drafting/personel moves. Kinda long, yah, but I just like where we're heading as an organization with Morey in charge.
lol. nice one. but that would only work in america. its known as a full stop in other parts of the english speaking world......
I honestly don't feel this is "thinking outside the box". Teams have been using statisticians for ages. Dallas uses many of them. By hiring so many stat guys, it's obvious that Morey wants to take this to a whole new level(assuming other teams aren't doing this already). Now, I'm not sure if these guys are just crunching numbers, or if they're looking at perhaps new methods of evaluating players. Either way, I like it. I've always thought that using stat guys is a cost-effective method of scouting, because they're much cheaper than traditional scouts once you factor in travel cost and all that. Gives you a better feel of more players, even if only at a fundamental level. And allows your scout to only look at players which have potential.
Morey has a good chance of getting two viable NBA players in each of his first two drafts, thats pretty well unheard of. Not to mention that all those picks were outside of the top 20. If he gets something for Steve Novak's contract I'll declare him God Emperor of GMs.
