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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Lil Pun, Oct 4, 2002.

  1. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    I'm having trouble with 3 other problems, here they are:
    (2) = squared, (3) = cubed and so on




    cot x + tan x
    --------------- = csc x
    sec x



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    1 1
    ----------- - ----------- = -2cot x csc x
    1 + cos x 1 - cos x



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    sin(3) x + cos (3) x
    ------------------------ = 1 - sin x cos x
    sin x + cos x
     
  2. RocketsPimp

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    Do your own homework! :D
     
  3. Lil Pun

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    Actually these are problems which were to be turned in yesterday but I didn't do these, I did the other ones but I couldn't figure these out. :confused:
     
  4. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Really...

    here is the first one:

    1. (cot x + tan x) / sec x = csc x

    2. ((cos x / sin x) + (sin x / cos x)) / sec x = csc x

    3. ((cos x / sin x) / sec x) + ((sin x / cos x) / sec x) = csc x

    4. (cos x / sin x) * (1 / sec x) + (sin x / cos x) * (1 / sec x) = csc x

    5. (cos x / sin x) * (1 / (1/ cos x)) + (sin x / cos x) * (1 / (1/ cos x) = csc x

    6. (cos x / sin x) * cos x + (sin x / cos x) * cos x = 1 / sin x

    7. (cos^2 x / sin x) + sin x = 1 / sin x

    8. (cos^2 x + sin^2 x) / sin x = 1 / sin x

    9. 1 / sin x = 1 / sin x

    Which is the same as csc x = csc x

    Therefore, this identity is true.

    I think the other 2 requires sum and difference formulas, so someone else can do those for you.
     
  5. Mudbug

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    sin x cos x
    cot x + tan x = ----- + -----
    cos x sin x

    sin(2) x + cos(2) x writing fraction with a
    = --------------------------- common denominator
    cosx sinx

    1
    = ------------- because sin(2) x + cos(2) x = 1
    cosx sinx

    1 1
    =--------- * ----------
    cos x sin x

    = sec x csc x

    So:

    sec x csc x
    -------------- = csc x
    sec x
     
  6. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Mudbug's solution reminds me that #1 can be done several different ways.

    Another way of solving is to do this:

    Multiply both sides by sec x, this leaves:

    cot x + tan x = csc x sec x

    Use definitions to get:

    cos x / sin x + sin x / cos x = (1 / sin x) * (1 / cos x)

    Get a common denominator of sin x cos x, to get

    (cos^2 x + sin^2 x) / sin x cos x = 1 / (sin x cos x)

    cos^2 x + sin^2 x = 1, so 1 / sin x cos x = 1 / sin x cos x

    Which that might be easier to use than the one I used up above.
     
  7. drapg

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    damn I wish there were BBSs readily accessible when I was in high school... sheesh.
     
  8. Mudbug

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    Let's see if I can make this post more readable.

    left hand side:

    Get a common denominator:

    = (1 - cosx - 1 - cos x) / (1 + cosx )( 1 -cosx )

    Evaluate:

    = -2cosx / (1 - cos^2 x)

    Use sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1:

    = -2cosx / ( sin^2 x + cos^2 x - cos^2 x )

    Evaluate:

    = -2cosx /(sin^2x)

    Factor:

    = -2 * (cosx / sinx ) * (1 / sinx )

    Evaluate:

    = -2 cotx cscx
     
  9. Mudbug

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    First factor the numerator of the left hand side:

    sin^3 x + cos^3 x

    = (sin^2 x + cos^2 x )( sinx + cosx ) - (sin^2 x)(cosx ) - (cos^2 x)(sinx)

    since sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1

    = ( sinx + cosx ) - (sin^2 x)(cosx ) - (cos^2 x)(sinx)

    So the left hand side evaluates to:

    [( sinx + cosx ) - (sin^2 x)(cosx ) - (cos^2 x)(sinx)] / ( sinx + cosx )

    = 1 - [(sin^2 x)(cosx ) + (cos^2 x)(sinx)] / ( sinx + cosx )

    Factor numerator:

    = 1 - [(sinx)(cosx)( sinx + cosx )] / ( sinx + cosx )

    = 1 - sinx cosx
     
  10. Dr of Dunk

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    How old are you, because I think there were. :)
     
  11. drapg

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    not with my 1200 baud modem and my cheap parents who didn't want to pay for prodigy! :(

    i didn't enter the world of the internet until 1996 (with aol 2.0)...

    i still remember how there was no web browser integrated with aol 2.0, so i had to d/l it.... took 18 hours with my 9600 baud modem!
     
  12. No Worries

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    While we are at it, does anyone have a solution to this :

    find x,y,z where

    x^n + y^n = z^n

    where x,y,z are all nonzero and n > 2.

    thanks in advance!
     
  13. drapg

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    ya know, if you guys know how to program, you could write some quicky source code with a big loop to get the answer...

    thats what i used to do back in school if there was a math problem i couldn't solve... PASCAL got me lots of extra credit! :D
     
  14. Mudbug

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    Fermat's last theorum. Good Luck! :D
     
  15. No Worries

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    Sssssshhhhhh :) :) :)
     

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