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More Than 500,000 Rally in L.A. for Immigrants' Rights

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  1. No Worries

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    Just in time for the 2006 election, Republicans are rallying their base by bashing Illegals. Bashing illegals is what makes this country great. Let's build that 2000 mile wall!!!


    More Than 500,000 Rally in L.A. for Immigrants' Rights
    By Teresa Watanabe and Anna Gorman, Times Staff Writer
    2:51 PM PST, March 25, 2006

    Joining what some are calling the nation's largest mobilization of immigrants ever, hundreds of thousands of people boisterously marched in downtown Los Angeles Saturday to protest federal legislation that would crack down on undocumented immigrants, penalize those who help them and build a security wall on the U.S. southern border. Spirited crowds representing labor, religious groups, civil-rights advocates and ordinary immigrants stretched over 26 blocks of downtown Los Angeles from Adams Blvd. along Spring Street and Broadway to City Hall, tooting kazoos, waving American flags and chanting "Si se puede!" (Yes we can!). The crowd, estimated by police at more than 500.000, represented one of the largest protest marches in Los Angeles history, surpassing Vietnam War demonstrations and the 70,000 who rallied downtown against Proposition 187, a 1994 state initiative that denied public benefits to undocumented migrants.

    The marchers included both longtime residents and the newly arrived, bound by a desire for a better life and a love for this county.

    Arbelica Lazo, 40, illegally immigrated from El Salvador two decades ago but said she now owns two business and pays $7,000 in taxes annually.

    Jose Alberto Salvador, 33, came here illegally just four months ago to find work to support the wife and five children he left behind; in his native Guatemala, he said, what little work he could find paid only $10 a day. "As much as we need this country, we love this country," Salvador said, waving a stick with both the American and Guatemalan flag. "This country gives us opportunities we don't get at home."

    Saturday's rally, spurred by anger over legislation passed by the U.S. House of Representatives last December, was part of what many say is an unprecedented effort to organize immigrants and their supporters across the nation. The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee is to take up efforts Monday to complete work on a comprehensive immigration reform proposal. Unlike the House bill, which beefed up border security and toughened immigration laws, the Senate committee's version is expected to include a guest worker program and a path to legalization for the nation's 10 to 12 million undocumented immigrants.

    In recent weeks, hundreds of thousands of people have staged demonstrations in more than a dozen cities. The Roman Catholic Church and other religious communities have launched immigrant rights campaigns, with Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony taking a leading role in speaking out against the House bill and calling on his priests to defy its provisions that would make felons of anyone who aided undocumented immigrants. In addition, several cities, including Los Angeles, have passed resolutions against the House legislation and some, such as Maywood, have declared itself a "sanctuary" for undocumented immigrants.

    "There has never been this kind of mobilization in the immigrant community ever," said Joshua Hoyt, executive director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights. "They have kicked the sleeping giant. It's the beginning of a massive immigrant civil rights struggle."

    One of the marchers Saturday, Jose Alberto Salvador, 33, left his wife and children behind in Guatemala four months ago to cross the border into the United States so he could earn enough money to return home and buy a house.

    Jorge Valdovinos, 43, is a legal immigrant from Mexico who has three US-born children and works as a financial advisor.

    Amid a sea of American and Mexican flags, protesters chanted "Si Se Puede!" and waved banners in Spanish that read, "We aren't criminals" and "The USA is made by immigrants."

    "I love this country as if it were my own, for the opportunities it has given me," said Laurentino Ramirez, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who works at a garment factory. "The law is unjust for those who don't have papers. We come to work. We don't come to do harm to anyone."

    Many of the marchers were immigrants themselves — both legal and illegal -- from Mexico and Central America. Some had just crossed the border, while others had been here for decades. There were construction workers and business owners; families with young children and people in wheelchairs. Throughout the afternoon, protesters heard speakers demand a path toward legalization and denounce HR 4437, which would tighten border enforcement and crack down on employers who hire undocumented workers.

    The rally was organized by numerous unions, religious organizations and immigrant rights groups and publicized through Spanish-language media, which encouraged participants to wear white to symbolize peace and bring American flags. The mostly peaceful march stretched over 26 blocks, shutting down streets and tying up traffic around downtown for hours. Police estimated the crowd at 500,000, more than five times the size of the 1994 rally against California's Proposition 187, which would have denied services to undocumented immigrants. Participants said the massive mobilization shows that immigrants' voices must be heard and that they are contributing to the country's economy.
     
  2. MadMax

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    just the kind of crap that makes me want to vote a straight party democrat ticket next election.
     
  3. No Worries

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    So what does the Democratic Party do that makes you want to vote a straight Republican ticket?
     
  4. krosfyah

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    Republican idealogs claim they want to stop immigration. But the business owners in American (many of which are Republican) do NOT want to stop immigration because that is their workforce! Our economy would grind to a halt and many wealthy Americans would lose millions of $.

    Many traditional Republicans have a vested interest to sustain the illegal immigrant workforce.
     
  5. No Worries

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    We are soon to reach a tipping point, where Mexican Americans are going to give the Democratic Party a demographic lead which will only keep growing. Thus, bashing illegals is done for self preservation.
     
  6. Surfguy

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    I just don't agree with the premise that anyone should be allowed to cross our borders illegally. However, I do agree that immigrants should have a way to come in and work in a way that we know they are here.

    How you accomplish that is obviously a huge issue.
     
  7. glynch

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    The Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act was introduced in the House on December 6, 2005. There were no hearings on the bill. Two days later, on December 8, there was a "mark up" of the bill in the full House Judiciary Committee. The bill passed on a party-line vote in the Committee, 23-15, (Republicans voting for; Democrats against). On December 16, the House passed H.R. 4437 by a vote of 239 - 182. There is no companion bill in the Senate.

    The final vote was Repubs 202 for 17 against. Dems 164 against 36 for.

    http://www.immigrationforum.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=777

    Maybe some GOP backers,many of whom frequently proclaim Chrisitianity, can explain how Jesus would have approved of this.

    We need a massive anti- immigration bill rally in Houston.
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    Wedge issue for the 2006 elections. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Aceshigh7

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    God, you liberal pansies make me sick. This bill is sorely needed. Why penalize the immigrants who come here the right way and respect our laws by allowing these scumbags to just flout the laws and come across if they feel like it?

    I wish we had the INS there checking the immigration status of all of those protesters. Even if could have found that 5 percent were here illegally and we sent them back it would have been a nice message.
     
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    In one short post, you have managed to call people who have a different view point pansies. You manage to generalize all illegal immigrants as scumbags, you assert that we should search hundreds of thousands of protestors without a warrant, contrary to our UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

    That might be a rocrd. Way to do your part. No wonder people get turned off by politics and don't want to participate.
     
  12. Aceshigh7

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    Look, if you're here illegally, you are a scumbag, you are a criminal, and you are a piece of ****. Pure and simple.

    Our politicians have ignored this problem for much too long.

    And for those Americans that were out there protesting, blind lemmings just about sums them up.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Keep generalizing, and name calling Aces, you do yourself, your party, and your positions proud.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    ..and you're an enabler. You live off of hard immigrant labor like a parasite and then you call the people who toil to make sure your pansy-ass doesn't see dirty turds on the toilet seat everytime you use the restroom, who make your food, wash your dishes, build your buildings, etc. All stuff that you are too high and mighty to do.

    Look in the mirror before you call somebody a piece of sh-t.
     
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    I guess that makes all Americans of European descent scumbags too, since none of them got permission from the Native Americans (to whom this land belong too since they were the first here) to come here either.
     
  16. Major

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    Yup. The mother of 2 kids with an abusive husband, who just wants to escape a life of abuse and poverty and give her kids a potentially better future with a chance to grow up outside of the slums is definitely my definition of a scumbag.

    If only she would put the needs of America above her own family and children. Damn, she's selfish.
     
  17. Aceshigh7

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    ****ing idiots. Now I see why this country is in such bad shape with people like you all.
     
  18. Major

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    Classic! Can't argue your point, so why not hurl insults? TJ and Texxx have trained you well.
     
  19. Aceshigh7

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    How can you argue with the ignorant?
     
  20. giddyup

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    What other illegal things are you all in favor of? How about banishment of abortions? :D
     

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