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More reasons to hate the NE Patriots (UPDATE: NFL penalizes Patriots)

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by madmonkey37, Sep 10, 2007.

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  1. madmonkey37

    madmonkey37 Member

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    Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets

    NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.

    The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said.

    "We don't have any comment," an NFL spokesman said Monday.

    The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game.

    The league's competition committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets.

    "It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

    In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

    "From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."

    A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989
     
    #1 madmonkey37, Sep 10, 2007
  2. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

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    surprise, surprise.

    :rolleyes:
     
    #2 moestavern19, Sep 10, 2007
  3. pirc1

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    Always knew NE was sleazy, great team, but sleazy.
     
    #3 pirc1, Sep 10, 2007
  4. Blake

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    wow. i am a pats fan, but if this is true...
     
    #4 Blake, Sep 10, 2007
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    Wow, hard to believe this kind of thing can happen in today's NFL. Or any sport, for that matter.
     
    #5 ima_drummer2k, Sep 10, 2007
  6. windfern

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    technology makes it happen so easily...

    I'm sure everyone's doing the same thing, too bad NE got unlucky to be caught first.
     
    #6 windfern, Sep 10, 2007
  7. Stack24

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    Wonder what type of punishment the team would get if it was found to be true.
     
    #7 Stack24, Sep 10, 2007
  8. Clutch

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    The article says if true the league's competition committee could recommend that the Pats lose a draft pick or picks .... I'd love to see that happen (but I doubt it).
     
    #8 Clutch, Sep 10, 2007
  9. RocketMan Tex

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    This is like the football equivalent of the 1951 New York Giants baseball club, putting a guy in the office in the outfield with a telescope to steal signs from the opposing catcher.
     
    #9 RocketMan Tex, Sep 10, 2007
  10. WWR

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    If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.



    Goodell will probably suspend the team for one year. :cool:
     
    #10 WWR, Sep 10, 2007
  11. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Miami gets secret tapes of NE and y'all say its part of the game. NE sends in a spy and y'all b**** and moan. When Marshall sent a spy to West Virginia practice they simply responded that it was flattering. Texas and OU have been spy swapping since the 50's.
     
    #11 Ziggy, Sep 10, 2007
  12. DonnyMost

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    well, this isn't surprising.

    i figured EVERY team did this.
     
    #12 DonnyMost, Sep 10, 2007
  13. Mr. Brightside

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    Give NE the death penalty!
     
    #13 Mr. Brightside, Sep 10, 2007
  14. pirc1

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    Ya, ban them from the post season, lol. :D
     
    #14 pirc1, Sep 10, 2007
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So is it against the rules for a coach to stand on the sidelines and simply observe the opposing coaches and make notes as to their signals and play calling?

    Is it against the rules to deduce the other teams audibles?

    I don't see why this is such a big deal at all. Teams should change their signals, audbles, etc. when playing an opponent a second or third time in a season.
     
    #15 bobrek, Sep 10, 2007
  16. Rocket River

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    Is this like Indianapolis and the 'artificial' crowd noise?

    Rocket River
     
    #16 Rocket River, Sep 10, 2007
  17. Mr. Brightside

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    I would think it would be quite difficult to come up with a different set of signals. Not only do the coaches have to remember, but the players also. Learning one set of signals takes a while for rookies even.
     
    #17 Mr. Brightside, Sep 10, 2007
  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It sems that teams would, at the very least, assume that other teams have scouted them enough to pick up their signals.

    Generally, the only ones that need to know the signals are the QBs and (usually) MLBs. They pass them along to the rest of the team.
     
    #18 bobrek, Sep 10, 2007
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I just knew this was going to be about randy moss. I fear he will have a season like his rookie year when he really shook up the nfl.
     
    #19 pgabriel, Sep 10, 2007
  20. conquistador#11

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    If the US, China, and the soviet union do it, then what is the big deal :confused: funny, something similar happened to New england thats why coach "b" is always so paranoid with everyone
     
    #20 conquistador#11, Sep 10, 2007
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