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More proof polls a joke?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Faos, Jun 15, 2004.

  1. Faos

    Faos Member

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    I'm sure some of you guys are rushing to type in the "roll eyes" emoticon because this is coming from Drudge, but if true it certainly deserves some attention.

    http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm

    LA Times Poll Had Sample With 38% Democrats, 25% Republicans

    Tue Jun 15 2004 10:13:47 ET

    Sen. John Kerry "has taken big lead," according "to an L.A. Times poll."

    But the Times poll that showed Kerry "beating Bush by 7 points" has created a controversy over whether the poll's sample accurately reflects the population as whole, ROLL CALL reports on Tuesday.

    "Not counting independents, the Times' results were calculated on a sample made up of 38 percent Democrats and 25 percent Republicans -- a huge and unheard-of margin," ROLL CALL claims.

    Developing...
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    Drudge :rolleyes:

    Now that that's out of the way, I'm not sure why I'd expect to have equal numbers Democrats and Republicans. Obviously, the complaint has some meat to it in that those numbers (if correct) don't seem to reflect the population at large. But, the margin doesn't matter. Could it have been that they counted likely voters only, and thereby disqualified Republicans or taken some similar filtering step that is not being reported on here?
     
  3. Faos

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    Why wouldn't the margin matter? If MLB counted the votes of more Astros fans than Cubs fans wouldn't the Astros stand a better chance of having more guys in the all-star game?
     
  4. dc rock

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    Wasnt Kerry supposed to be hiding under rock right now since he cheated on his wife with a secretary or something??? Yeah Drudge is an honest journalist.

    Kerry's leading more polls that just the LA times.
     
  5. Jeff

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    Well, this is certainly proof that SOMETHING is a joke. :D

    Actually, the only polls I tend to trust come from Gallup or privately conducted polls for individual campaigns that are not publicized. These are done privately for campaigns and are brutally honest on purpose.
     
  6. Dennis2112

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    But is there a dispreportionate number people in those polls as well. I used to be called for Polls all the time until they asked me whether I was a Democrat, Republican or Moderate and I told them I was a Republican and they NEVER called me back.


    I wonder why that is? :confused:
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    What if there are just more Astros fans than there are Cubs fans? It isn't mandated that we have a like number of Republicans and Democrats in the country; why should it be that way with a poll?
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I am an egghead liberal democrat, and I have never been called for a poll. That's fishy, isn't it?

    No it's not. Give me a break.

    The extent to which people don't want to hear things that disagree with them is simply amazing. It's really disturbing how obsessed we all are with spin instead of facts.

    Again, the only poll that counts is the one in November, and that one only really counts if we're lucky and the results are beyond experimental uncertainties and the whim of the supreme court.
     
  9. Faos

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    Drudge didn't come up with the story...only passed it along.

    You are right...why would Kerry cheat when he has it all?

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Faos

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    Would you like some whine to go along with your hanging chads?
     
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    Well first of all, he doesn't have a link or anything. If you go to the Roll Call website, the story is kind of hidden, but most important, it's in the OPINION section.

    More on Drudge, he's got a picture of Teresa Heinz now with a picture of Tootsie next to her. Is this news? This guy is such a shill it's not even funny. It's just like when Limbaugh compared Chelsea to a dog, what kind of ******* goes after a candidate's family?


    I'd also like to add that I don't trust the LA times poll either, but I trust Drudge even less.
     
  12. dc rock

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    Post a picture of yourself. Let's judge you too.
     
  13. Dennis2112

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    I agree and I don't believe I said that anyone who is an egghead Liberal democrat were polled. Not everyone gets called for a poll. I was for a 2 year period but it abruptly stopped after the incident described previously. I never meant to imply that all people polled were Democrat nor all people not polled were Republican.

    I was merely stating a situation that I experienced.

    If , in fact , some polling people are skewing the number of people from either side when taking a poll then the results becomes useless.

    You are correct the only poll that matters is the one in November.
     
  14. B-Bob

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    ha. ha. wait: not funny. Thanks for completely ignoring my main point. You have been well-trained by your masters.

    Again, the only poll that matters occurs in November. Would you like that in all caps? I've heard that's how Rove faxes the orders around, so maybe you're more accustomed to that.
     
  15. Faos

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    If it'll makes you feel better I agree with your main point. As I said before I expect a lot of things, good and bad, to happen between now and then.
     
  16. Faos

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    [​IMG]

    Happy now? Judge away.
     
  17. mc mark

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    how appropriate!

    ;)
     
  18. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    No, but it made me feel better when you confirmed that you are, as I expected, a small grey box with a red X on it. :p
     
  19. ima_drummer2k

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    [​IMG]

    There. Satisfied?
     
  20. mc mark

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    nice glasses
     

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