The Case for the Big Ten 2-5 overall bowl record tOSU and Michigan were the two best teams in the conference, many wanted them to re-match for the National Championship, and they got drummed by a total of 51 points. Minnesota and Iowa ended up under .500 after their bowl game. The whole "called the Big Ten even though there's eleven of them" thing. The Case for the Big 12 3-5 overall bowl record OSU and Texas both beat teams that were under .500 after their bowl game. Oklahoma made it to a BCS and lost to a non-BCS team. Texas A&M lost its bowl by 35 points, the largest margin of any bowl.
I haven't read the thread so forgive me if I re-hash stuff. As an alumnus of the University of Iowa (ROXTXIA), I have to point out that many Hawkeye fans believed their team didn't deserve a bowl game, not even the Grape Nuts Cereal Bowl or the Arm and Hammer Toilet Bowl. But Iowa got asked to a game because their fans travel (ask an Iowan to travel to warm weather during winter and he/she will go) and because they were believed to be better than their record (lots of injuries). And they still almost beat Texas in a venue most decidedly UT-friendly. I still don't think my team deserved a bowl bid. 6-6 is still 6-6. I don't want to admit it. But it must be faced. The Midwest serves up too many slow-footed, fat-assed white boys (yes, there are plenty of brothers, too, who wish Florida and UT had come calling) to compete against other conferences, and they get embarassed over and over again. If Ohio State and Michigan had played each other again (a matchup I originally wanted), it would have reinforced mediocrity. Right now, I'm waiting for the investigation to find out how much gamblers paid off Ohio State players to play like they just got prison-raped. That's how bad this was.
Equally sucky, but no one was going around saying the Big 12 was the best conference in the country (like they were the Big 10) and no one was advocating putting two Big 12 teams in the NC game (like they were the Big 10). So the easy choice is the Big 10.
You haven't read the thread? There is only one post prior to yours? If there were 10 pages I could understand, but how hard is it to read the post that created the thread? LOL, sorry, I just thought this was funny
It was a terrible year for the big 12, but most of the teams should be better next year. No excuses though, you are what your record says you are.
completely agree. the big 10 gets huge run every year as this super-duper conference. as the definition of college football. when your two top teams go down like that, it's not a good thing.
After losing to the Gophers you guys probably didn't deserve a bowl game especially since the Gophers didn't deserve one either.
Posted this in the game thread: I wonder how much the Big 10 schools being in cold weather states vs. SEC schools being in warm weather states affects the kind of kids they are able to recruit (ie. faster kids in warm weather states). Same with the PAC 10. Both of those conferences HAMMER the Big 10 every year during bowl season.
I agree. So I'd answer the thread question your way.. but the poll question is different--"which is less deserving of being called a power conference?" In which case, I chose the Big 12 by a narrow margin (even as a Longhorn). Esp. with PSU back on the rise
As an Oklahoma State fan, I have the same sentiment. The Cowboys lost a lot of close games, but they were still 6-6. They beat another 6-6 team without a coach. I'm happy that they're getting better, but they didn't deserve to be in a bowl game.
going to have to go with Big 12 this year unfortunately. There was an interesting article a little while back making a case for why the Big 12 won't make it, hopefully it won't turn into reality, but it could. North needs to get it together
The Big 12 was rated very poorly going into the season. I think 3-5 was what people would expect from the Big 12 this season. If the question was which conference currently sucks harder, Big 12 would be the answer.
These next 8 months of SEC chest-pounding will make the eventual hubris that much better next season.
Both...Well, the SEC deserves kudos...I still can't believe OSU didn't show up and make a game of it...Troy Smith supported my theory that he was overrated...
Last year it was the Big XII (Texas was numero uno.. but everybody else really failed to put on their jocks that season) This year it goes to the Big 10 plus 1.