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(more good news from Iraq) U. N. is unanimous with us and the Iraq Resolution...

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  1. ROXRAN

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    We are all one big happy family! Big hug! Big squeeze!...

    Steps towards a better world and for our children...Here's looking out for you. This is the evidence of U.N. togetherness we now need...Forget the past. Stop talking and living about how the past wasn't perfect! Put a smile on your face, show your teeth, and think of the good we are doing! Rejoice! and behold a better today for the Iraqis and the world!


    U.N. Unanimously Approves Iraq Resolution

    Tuesday, June 08, 2004

    NEW YORK — The U.N. Security Council (search) on Wednesday unanimously voted for a U.S. resolution backing the transfer of sovereignty to Iraq's new government, which President Bush deemed a "catalyst for change."



    The resolution details the powers and the limitations of the new interim Iraqi government that will assume power on June 30. It authorizes the U.S.-led multinational force to remain in Iraq to help ensure security but gives the Iraqi government the right to ask the force to leave at any time.

    France and Germany dropped their objections after the resolution included a last-minute compromise giving Iraqi leaders control over the activities of their own troops and a say on "sensitive offensive operations" by the multinational force — such as the controversial siege of Fallujah.

    But the measure stops short of granting the Iraqis a veto over major U.S.-led military operations.

    Bush claimed victory before the vote, telling reporters at the Group of Eight (search) summit in Sea Island, Ga., that a unanimous approval would tell the world that the council nations "are interested in working together to make sure Iraq is free, peaceful and democratic."

    "These nations understand that a free Iraq will serve as a catalyst for change in the broader Middle East, which is an important part of winning the war on terror," Bush said.

    But his administration lowered expectations of gaining other countries' military support — one of the original hopes behind the resolution. Four members of the Group of Eight summit — France, Germany, Russia and Canada — have said they won't send troops to take the burden off the 138,000 American soldiers and the 24,000 troops from coalition partners.

    Nevertheless, the adoption of the resolution will likely buy time for the new Iraqi government, boosting its international stature as it struggles to win acceptance and cope with a security crisis at home.

    The interim government — put together by a U.N. envoy, the Americans and their Iraqi allies — hopes the vote will give it a legitimacy that eluded its predecessor, the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council (search). That legitimacy would put it in a better position to curry support among fellow Arab governments and seek economic help from abroad.

    Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, speaking in New York at the Council on Foreign Relations (search), predicted it would have a "positive impact" on security by removing the perception of the U.S.-led multinational force as an occupying power.

    Although the resolution says the interim government will have authority to ask the force to leave, new Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi (search) indicated in a letter to Secretary of State Colin Powell that the force will remain at least until an elected transitional government takes power early next year.

    French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier said many French ideas were incorporated in the final text though Paris would have liked a clearer definition of the relationship between the new Iraqi government and the U.S.-led force.

    "That doesn't stop us from a positive vote in New York to help in a constructive way find a positive exit to this tragedy," he told France-Inter radio.

    Iraqi President Ghazi al-Yawer (search), meeting in Washington with Powell, brushed off any suggestion that there might be disagreement between U.S. and Iraqi commanders.

    "We are working together," al-Yawer told reporters. "These people are in our country to help us."

    He added: "We have to think proactive. We cannot afford to be pessimistic."

    In Berlin, German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said he hopes "that now there will finally be a stabilization of the security situation in Iraq."

    France and Germany had been among the sharpest critics in the Security Council of the U.S. decision to invade Iraq.

    On Tuesday, Barnier said that during the weeks of negotiations on the resolution "there was a real dialogue for the first time in this affair."

    "The Americans clearly understood, after months and months of military operations, that there was no way out by arms, by military operations in Iraq," the foreign minister said.

    "Washington understood that we have to get out of this tragedy by the high road."

    Many other council members who had objections to the early U.S.-British drafts also announced their support for the final resolution — the fifth since May 24. They included China, which had proposed major changes, and Algeria, the council's only Arab member, which argued for greater Iraqi control over its own military and major operations by the multinational force.

    "I hope that all council members will stand united," said China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya. "This resolution will send several political messages, number one that the military occupation will come to an end. Secondly it will say that the Iraqi people will be granted full sovereignty. So I hope that this is a very good beginning for the Iraqis."

    The main compromise was an addition to the resolution summarizing Iraq's "security partnership" with U.S.-led forces, spelled out in an exchange of letters between Allawi and Powell.
     
  2. wizkid83

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    Great great step. Keep it up Bush please. It will help in November/
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Screw November. I think this is some good news regardless of one's political leanings. I hope it makes a difference in Iraq.
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    I know you said not to get too smoochy, but I really respect the way you express yourself...
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    How do you feel about animal costumes? Nothing fancy... I mean just normal, mascot kinds of things.
     
  6. mc mark

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    oh god bob yer talking to the squirrel king

    right rox?

    I too think this is great news!
     
  7. sums41

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    more good news? I haven't heard many good news lately. All I hear in the news is that American soldiers are being killed almost everyday. I hope this is a step in the right direction though, cuz for someone like me who has a relative in Iraq(cousin), almost everyday is bad news day.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    I think we all hope that the promise of this resolution is fulfilled and things work in the best way possible.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    It is refreshing that our leader has FINALLY tried to enlist the aid of the world community.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Hey,

    Maybe they did have a plan after all.

    :)

    Good news !!

    DD
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    They should have done it 6 months or more ago.
     
  12. mc mark

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    Seems not everyone is happy with the resolution...

    The Resolution's Weakness

    By WILLIAM SAFIRE

    In his eagerness for the approval of the Shiite religious leader — and driven by desperation to get yesterday's unanimous U.N. resolution in time for the G-8 meeting — President Bush may be double-crossing the Kurds, our most loyal friends in Iraq.

    Not a single U.S. soldier has been killed in the area of northern Iraq patrolled by the pesh merga, the army of Kurdish Iraqis who have brought order to their region. Savaged by Saddam's poison-gas attacks in the 80's, Kurdistan was abandoned by the first President Bush to Saddam's vengeance after the first gulf war. When our conscience made us provide air cover in the 90's, the Kurds amazed the Middle East by creating a free, democratic mini-state within despotic Iraq.

    These Kurdish Sunni Muslims — an ancient ethnic group, neither Arab nor Turk — are one-fifth of Iraq's population. They cheered our arrival and set aside old dreams of independence, asking for reasonable autonomy in return for participating enthusiastically in the formation of the new Iraq.

    In February, the Iraqi Governing Council, which included all religious and ethnic groups, hammered out its only memorable work: a Transitional Administrative Law, which laid the groundwork for a constitution to be adopted later by elected officials in a sovereign state. Most important for Kurds, who have long been oppressed by an Arab majority, it established minority rights within a federal state — the essence of a stable democracy.

    But as the U.N. resolution supporting that state was nearing completion, the Shiite grand ayatollah, Ali al-Sistani, suddenly intervened. He denounced the agreed-upon law as "legislated by an unelected council in the shadow of occupation." He decreed that mentioning it in the U.N. resolution would be "a harbinger of grave consequences."

    The U.S. promptly caved. Stunned Kurds protested in a letter to President Bush that "the people of Kurdistan will no longer accept second-class citizenship in Iraq." If the law guaranteeing minority rights was abrogated, Kurds would "have no choice but to refrain from participating in the central government, not to take part in the national elections, and to bar representatives of the central government from Kurdistan."

    Massoud Barzani and Jalal Talabani, the Kurdish leaders, appealed to Bush's sense of loyalty: "We will be loyal friends to America even if our support is not always reciprocated. . . . If the forces of freedom [do not] prevail elsewhere in Iraq, we know that, because of our alliance with the United States, we will be marked for vengeance."

    I ran this pained appeal past John Negroponte, who will move from his post as our U.N. representative to be our ambassador to the new Iraq, at his farewell lunch yesterday. He pointed to a line in the preamble to the U.N. resolution welcoming an unspecified commitment "to work towards a federal, democratic, pluralist and unified Iraq, in which there is full respect for political and human rights."

    Fine "preambular" words, but outside the action section of the resolution. That eviscerates the protective law, just as Sistani demanded.

    Why do we take our proven allies for granted? The conventional White House wisdom holds that the Iraqi Kurds have no place else to go. It's an article of faith that if the Kurds tried to break away and set up an independent Kurdistan, with oil-rich Kirkuk as its traditional capital, Turkey, on its border, would never permit it — lest murderous separatists among its own Kurdish population of 12 million get a new lease on death.

    Iraqi Kurds blundered last year in letting old grudges prevent Ankara from sending 10,000 troops south to help the coalition police Iraq. But since then, Kurdish leaders have gone all-out to establish economic and political relations with "our friends to the north."

    A Turkish construction company is building a $40 million airport in Sulaimaniya, and Kurds have been steering contracts to Turkish engineers to study sports stadiums and tunnels through the mountains. Despite grumbling from some anti-Kurdish generals, Turkey's prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has been responsive. The influential Ilnur Cevik of the Turkish Daily News urges "more attention to Iraqi Kurdish sensitivities" and asks: "Do the Arabs realize what they are getting into?"

    Our Kurdish allies will do their bit to hold Iraq together. But in appeasing the south, don't push the north too far.
     
  13. mc mark

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    More on the Kurds


    Kurds Threaten to Bolt Iraq Government

    By TODD PITMAN, Associated Press Writer

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Kurdish parties warned Wednesday that they might bolt Iraq (news - web sites)'s new government if Shiites gain too much power. In another challenge to the interim administration, saboteurs blew up an oil pipeline, forcing a 10 percent cut in electricity output.

    Kurdish fears of Shiite domination rose after the Americans and British turned down their request to have a reference to the interim constitution — which enshrines Kurdish federalism — included in the U.N. resolution approved Tuesday.

    The country's most prominent Shiite leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, warned he would not accept mention of the interim charter in the resolution. Shiites oppose parts of the charter that give Kurds a veto over a permanent constitution due to be drawn up next year.

    Meanwhile, clashes persisted Wednesday around Fallujah, a rebellious Sunni Muslim city west of Baghdad. Four members of an Iraqi force given control of the city last April were wounded when a mortar round exploded.

    The pipeline attack appeared to be part of an insurgent campaign against infrastructure to shake confidence in the new government, due to take power on June 30.

    The blast occurred about 9:30 a.m. near Beiji, 155 miles north of Baghdad, said Col. Sarhat Qadir of the Kirkuk police. Huge fireballs rose into the air, witnesses said.

    Oil Ministry spokesman Assem Jihad told Dow Jones Newswires that the attack would not affect exports from the northern oil fields. However, the blast cut supplies to the Beiji electric power station, forcing a reduction of 400 megawatts in power generation, Jihad said.

    Iraq now produces around 4,000 megawatts. Power cuts in the country have now reached more than 16 hours a day, making it difficult to cope with soaring heat, which is already more than 100 degrees.

    The U.S.-run coalition had made its ability to guarantee adequate electricity supplies a benchmark of success in restoring normalcy to Iraq. However, sabotage and frayed infrastructure have impeded efforts to eliminate power outages, especially in the capital.

    Coalition officials fear that insurgents may step up attacks on infrastructure targets to undermine public confidence both in the U.S. occupation authority and the new regime.

    Both major Kurdish parties — the Kurdistan Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan — conferred Wednesday to consider a response to the decision not to refer to the interim constitution in the U.N. resolution. The interim charter, adopted in March, affirms the principle of federalism and gave the Kurds an effective veto over the permanent constitution to be drafted next year.

    Kurds fear that the interim constitution, which the Americans hailed as the most progressive in the Middle East, will be sidelined once the occupation ends and the Shiite clergy gains ascendancy.

    The Kurds have been running their own autonomous mini-state since 1991, and many Kurds would prefer their own independent country.

    At the United Nations, Secretary-General Kofi Annan sought to reassure the Kurds, saying that while the resolution doesn't refer to the constitution, it "does have language that refers to a united federal democratic Iraq."

    Diplomats said reference to the interim constitution was omitted because of opposition by al-Sistani. Shiites are believed to compromise about 60 percent of Iraq's 25 million while Kurds number around 15 percent.

    In a statement addressed to the U.N. Security Council earlier this week, al-Sistani warned that mentioning the interim charter in the resolution would be "an act against the will of the Iraqi people and will have dangerous results."

    He denounced the charter, saying it was "put in place by an unelected council, under the shadow of occupation" — referring to the U.S.-picked Governing Council that approved it.

    Iraq's Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, the first Kurd to hold the post, said he had lobbied unsuccessfully for an acknowledgment of the charter during his meetings at the Security Council last week.

    But he said he was satisfied that the "spirit" of the charter was in the final resolution.

    Still, Kurdish leaders in Iraq were unconvinced.

    "Now our future is ambiguous," said Nesreen Berwari, a Kurdish member of the interim government. "The interim constitution would have been the clear and bright roadmap to the all components of the Iraqi people."

    Berwari said she would resign if asked to do so by the Kurdish leadership.

    "Until now, we have not called for a separate Kurdistan, but if the Kurds' rights are not recognized, then we will take political measures that serve the interests of the Kurdish people," said Mulaha Bekhtiyar of the PUK. "For the time being, we will commit to a united Iraq."
     
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