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More about Yao, Wang and ChineseGov's situation

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ShanghaiShark, May 23, 2002.

  1. ShanghaiShark

    ShanghaiShark Member

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    From NBADRAFT:

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    As a Chinese, I can give you some perspective.

    Wang and Yao are completely different stories.
    1. Wang was drafted by Big-D in 1999 at the 2nd round w/o even prior discussion with Wang's team. (NBA rule does not require Big-D to notify the Chinese Army club first; talking about cultural insensitivity). Hence, the Chinese kept was mad and decided to keep Wang for almost 2 years so that he could play for various dometic games.

    Big-D learned a lesson and now get along very well with the Chinese Army team. In fact, Donnie Nelson (Don's son went to China a few times to volunteer the coaching there. In July, the whole Chinese National Team will come to Big-D to train for the world champsionship and get ject-lag adjustment.

    It was reported in the Chinese Press that Wang is still in Dallas because he wants to play the summar league in July. Despite the fact the national team had started training in Beijing and Menke Bateer and Yao Ming had to be there, the Chinese did not make a fuzz about Wang.

    My speculation: Wang and the Army Team are not happy that Wang did not get much play time in Big-D. So Nelson said, you have not improved a lot. Why don't stay here to play in the summar league. That will help you a lot than going back to China to train with the national team. That is why he stays.

    I think his contract will be renewed.

    2. Yao is a civilian with much less restriction than Wang. I think once a contract is signed (with 9 signatures as reported), it will be a done deal.

    The question is how to get everyone to sign the deal. I think the Chinese National Sports Authority and CBA are the easier part. They want to make sure that Yao continues his national team obligation. You may argue, say fine with Olympics and world champsionship. But what about Asian Games and other regional games? China is already No. 1 in Asia. Why do they need to recall Yao back for those games
    by hindering his development? I think you may win on this.

    Shanghai Sharks are business. They ask for money and a replacement for Yao, etc. While NBA has a collective bargaining agreement that only allow $350,000 be transfered between internaional leagues, it was really considered a very considered a selfish move by the Americans. Yes, it prevents bidding war for international talent. But who the hack is willing to give up talent for only $350,000. That is what the alternative compendation kicks in (TV revenue sharing, free use of training camps in the US by international leagues, etc).

    Now, one can realize why Sharks like Knicks and Bulls. They would certainly love LA if Shaq is not there. Simplily put it, it is about money, about big market lure. Bull###### about Big Chinese population in host city. Menke Bateer plays in Denver and is doing very well w/o a lot of Chinese contact, right? This is simply the excuse.

    NY and CHI understand that. Both Layden and Krause went to China several times earlier this year and discussed various scenarios with the Sharks informally. (NBA rules bar the formal negotiation before the lottery day). I think Shanghai, New York and Chicago came away understanding other parties' conditions and possible offers - they are acceptable to all. That is why Yao had the private workouts for both while in Chicago.

    I hope that some one in Rockets would understand this and they better get up the curve and start the negotiation early. If they don't, Sharks would simpliy perceive this as a sign that Rockets are going to trade, which is fine for them anyway, since Sharks are interesed in seeing Yao play in New York or Chicago.
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  2. heypartner

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    hey TB-Cain

    did you read that! :p
     
  3. RocketsPimp

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    Welcome!!

    While the Rockets may trade the pick that everyone assumes will be used to select Yao Ming, NY and Chicago are highly unlikely trade candidates.
     
  4. Karl Hungus

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    But, LA (Clips) is a very real possibility. Goldens State might be a good one too.
     
  5. Castor27

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    I have read the CBA (it was not an extremely enjoyable activity either) and according to it there is a way around the $350,000 max compensation. However it is not all that great for the teams. The way the CBA reads is that $350,000 is the max compensation a team can offer and not be penalized for it. Any ammount above that is considered salary towards a player in the form of a signing bonus and would count towards the salary cap. I believe this is the situation with Pau Gasol in Memphis. Technically he is paying his former club out of his own pocket. So it could be worked out where any team can compensate the Sharks by more than $350,000 they will just have to take a CAP hit to do it.

    To view the CBA(not that anyone really wants to) go here:
    Collective Bargaining Agreement
     
  6. Timing

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    The NBA is a business too and there are rules that have been set up for it's teams to ensure it remains a strong business. If the operators of the Shanghai Sharks could read or had a clue, they've been well aware what NBA teams can and can't offer. Any further coerced ass kissing and underhanded shady deal making needs to be done with David Stern.
     

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