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Monterey Park Shooting

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Given how many people were shot and this happened over Lunar New Year I think this deserves it's own thread.
    Latest news is that the 72 year old shooter took his own life. The shooting could've been much worse except that the shooter was stopped by 2 cvillians when he went to another dance hall. Most of the victims are middle aged and elderly. There has been no motive determined.
    https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/monterey-park-california-shooting-01-23-23/index.html
    New York Times: Man describes disarming suspected Monterey Park gunman at second dance hall location

    A man who encountered the suspect at the Alhambra dance hall just minutes from the scene of the massacre said he knew immediately the armed man was dangerous.

    “He was looking at me and looking around, not hiding that he was trying to do harm. His eyes were menacing,” Brandon Tsay told the New York Times.

    He was first alerted to the man’s presence when he heard the front doors at Lai Lai Ballroom & Studio close as he was working in the ticket office of the business his family has run for three generations, Tsay said.

    The man pointed a semi-automatic weapon at Tsay, he told the Times, saying it was the first gun he’d seen in real life. “My heart sank, I knew I was going to die,” he said.

    “From his body language, his facial expression, his eyes, he was looking for people,” Tsay said.

    He struggled with the man for about a minute and a half and eventually wrestled the gun from him, Tsay told the Times. He was able to grab the weapon when the man took his hand off it, as if to manipulate it to begin shooting, Tsay said.

    Once Tsay was in control of the gun, he pointed it back at the suspect and yelled for him to “get the hell out of here,” he said.

    Tsay told the Times he’s still processing what happened but is heartbroken for the Monterey Park community. “We have such a tight-knit community of dancers,” he said. “It feels so terrible something like this happened, to have one of our individuals try to harm others,” he told the Times.

    What authorities said about the second location: After releasing a barrage of gunfire on the people inside the Star Ballroom Dance Studio in Monterey Park, California, police said the gunman drove to the second dance hall in neighboring Alhambra where he entered with a firearm but fled after being disarmed.

    The suspect was later found dead Sunday inside a white cargo van after a standoff with police in Torrance, California, according to police.
     
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    A witness described the chaotic and horrific scene inside the Star Ballroom Dance studio, the Monterey Park mass shooting site.

    A witness described the chaotic and horrific scene inside the Star Ballroom Dance studio, the Monterey Park mass shooting site.

    "I just saw him, to shoot, to hold the gun, so I run... and I hide myself," said the witness who wished to stay anonymous.
    The witness claimed that the man came to the dance studio to find his wife. Authorities have not confirmed the motive behind the deadly shooting.

    "He found his wife there," the witness said. "He started to shooting everybody... when they dance."

    The witness said the suspect opened fire on the ballroom without saying anything. The witness added that the gunman had walked around and shot some victims again.

    The witness could not confirm that the gunman was the same man law enforcement had described. However, she did say that the clothes in the photo distributed by authorities seemed similar to the gunman.

    The woman hopes to pay her respects and pray for everybody involved.



    https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/...otic-scene-inside-star-ballroom-dance-studio/



    Authorities probe motive in deadly Monterey Park dance hall shooting

    Authorities are still investigating the motive in the deadly shooting, which took place in California’s San Gabriel Valley region — home to more than a half-million people of Asian heritage who were celebrating the Lunar New Year.

    The suspect, identified as 72-year-old Huu Can Tran, was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in a van in Torrance after a traffic stop led to a standoff, Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said Sunday night at a news conference.

    Law enforcement officials recovered “several pieces of evidence” in the van linking the suspect to both the Monterey Park scene and a second scene in neighboring Alhambra, Luna said.

    The suspect alleged to have unleashed the carnage at a Monterey Park dance hall, killing at least 10 people, may have had a prior history of visiting the studio, Mayor Henry Lo said.

    "We do understand that he may have had history of visiting this dance hall,"

    The mayor suggested it was possible the motive behind the attack "had to do with some personal relationships," but said police were still investigating the motive.

    It also remained unclear how the suspect had obtained the illegal weapon used in the attack, he said.
     
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  3. adoo

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    The shooting in Monterey Park comes amid an already violent year for the U.S.

    The country has seen at least 33 mass shootings in 2023 alone, according to data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive.

    The archive defines a mass shooting as one in which at least four people are injured or killed, other than the shooter.
     
  4. tinman

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    I thought the story was someone didn’t invite him to a party at that specific location so he went nuts and shot it up.
    He was recently divorced
     
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    Why couldn't this ******* just off himself and leave everyone else alone.
     
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    @AroundTheWorld

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/23/monte...dance-instructors-said-evil-things-about-him/

    Monterey gunman thought dance instructors said ‘evil things about him’
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    This sounds like another angry jilted lover who instead of trying to focus on himself turned his rage outward. The big question to me is how did he get his weapons. It sounds like the pistol he used wasn't legal in CA.
     
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    Because being angry and acting out is how we act in this country. What you do is much less important than how you look.
     
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    Also, seems rather unusual for a mass shooter to be this old.
     
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    They are getting older just like they're getting younger. I'm glad He F himself off though, saved us a lot of grief, money and round the clock attention to this loser.
     
  11. tinman

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    Well Illegal weapons are exactly that
    Remember how did Tupac get a gun in Juice?

    from the hood
    @Xerobull
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Unusual but not unheard of given the Vegas shooter was 64.

    While firearms are great "force equalizers" that they could allow a small women to wield deadly force when facing a threat from from a much stronger attacker that also means that someone who isn't physically strong can use such force to kill a lot of people.

    People kill people. Guns make it a lot easier.
     
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    I'm against gun bans at least. Because most gun bans will grandfather in existing owners. Which means we are left with a situation where vulnerable communities like the LGBTQ communities are sitting ducks because we know law enforcement typically aren't friendly to those communities and the right wing extremes that hate them are already armed.


    There are movements to arm the LGBTQ community with proper tactical training and I'm all for it. A potential right wing mass shooter should be scared to death to enter a gay night club and be riddled with bullets even before he can get a single round off.
     
  14. tinman

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    Do Ape kill Ape?
     
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    Brandon Tsay: The man who says he wrestled a gun from California shooting suspect at Alhambra dance hall thought he was going to die: 'This was it,' he told 'GMA' | CNN


    CNN —
    It was late in the evening Saturday when Brandon Tsay heard the door close and “the sound of metal” in the lobby of Lai Lai Ballroom & Studio, a dance hall in Alhambra, California, he told ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

    “That’s when I turned around and saw that there was an Asian man holding a gun,” Tsay said Monday. The man seemed as if he was looking for targets, he said.

    “My first thought was, I was going to die here. This was it.”

    Instead, Tsay charged, telling “GMA” he realized he needed to disarm the man – who authorities say had just opened fire at a Lunar New Year celebration at another dance studio in nearby Monterey Park, killing 10 people and injuring 10 others – “or else everybody would have died.”

    “When I got the courage, I lunged at him with both my hands, grabbed the weapon and we had a struggle,” Tsay said. “We struggled into the lobby, trying to get this gun away from each other.”

    “Finally, at one point, I was able to pull the gun away from him, shove him aside, create some distance,” Tsay said. Then he turned the gun on the man and told him, “Get the hell out of here. I’ll shoot you.”

    “At this point, I thought he would run away, but he was just standing here contemplating whether to fight or run away,” Tsay told “GMA.”

    “I really thought I would have to shoot him if he came at me,” he said.

    But the man left, Tsay said. He immediately called police, still holding the gun in his hands.

    Quite a contrast between this guy and the other guy who recently gunned down a robber with a fake gun at a fast food joint.
     
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    quite a contrast

    the hero, Brandon Tsay, whose family owns the dance club in Alhambra, who had never seen a real gun before
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    "something came over him" and he knew he had to "disarm him otherwise everyone would have died".

    "When I got the courage, I lunged at him with both my hands," he said.

    When Mr Tsay finally wrestled away the weapon, he pointed it at the man and yelled: "Go, get the hell out of here!" After a moment, Mr Tsay said the man left and jogged to his van.

    "Immediately I called police with the gun still in my hand,"







    the chicken bleep, coward, so-called police chief of the Uvalde school district; despite receiving many training on how to handle school shooting incidents, he was too afraid to confront the shooter.

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    his lame excuse was that he didn't know that he was in charge​
     
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    WTF. Contagious

    Half Moon Bay shooting spree: 7 Chinese farm workers killed in California | Marca

    Just two days after a mass shooting which took 11 lives in Monterey Park, California residents are dealing with yet another horrifying gun violence incident. This time, the seven victims were all Chinese farm workers.

    The shootings took place in two different farms
    The shooting spree took place in two locations, both of them farms. The first was at the Mountain Mushroom Farm, where one person was initially killed and three others succumbed to their injuries.

    At the second location, the Rice Tucking-Soil Farm, three people were shot dead in a home adjacent to the farm.
     
  18. tinman

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    California’s got the strictest gun laws

    except for illegal guns and criminals
     
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    Horrible.
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    Yeah, it's another old asian man. Thoughts and prayers for all the victims.

    Positive vibes for Mental Health and the funding that comes with it and all that...
     

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