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Moneyball: a movie. Similiar with Rockets now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lonestar, Jul 5, 2011.

  1. Lonestar

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  2. Scolalist

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    the stastical analysis in evaluating talent is similar, the rockets are a large market team unlike the a's and will and do resign high contract free agents rather than just deal them for picks (or in baseball's case-minor leaguers, since picks cant be dealt)

    looks like a good movie and this years social network.
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    Yes. Moneyball similar to Rockets now. Morey big deal every year in the call, pick up the transaction, but each time chipping away, every year, so fans disappointed. Murray always wanted to do big things with little money, but it does not work in the NBA, there is a manager in the team talk about winning ah? This the way of moneyball. Rocket too disappointing, how do you think?
     
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  4. SamFisher

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    With splash the promise are disheartening. Meanwhile Roy Brandons Portland to play and left Rockets a purgatory treadmill scola martin no franchise. Henhouse McHale be True it can? :confused:
     
  5. aball1991

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    What is up with your grammar, is this some sort of code?
     
  6. bloop

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    The difference is the sports. Baseball is a series of discrete events: man at base and statistical outcomes of that single event. Basketball is a continuum where one statistical event (such as an assist) might not even be a single event or the outcome of 1 actor.

    By the time Billy Beane took over there was 20 years of statistical theory on baseball starting with Bill James in the 70s. Morey has to make it up as he goes. We don't even really know if advanced statistics works in the sport of basketball. Personally I think it wont, or at least will be substantively affected by "unknowable" factors that exist in the NBA such as star calls and David Stern.

    I mean I think Morey has done a good job with drafts because he uses a combination of old fashioned scouting along with his own proprietary stats but putting it all together on Les' budget to assemble a contender without Yao or Tmac is something I'm going to have to see to believe.
     
  7. conquistador#11

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    at times we love to complicate things, basketball is simple. Here is my formula developed during my years in Jr. High.

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  8. ashishduh

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    The difference is that in baseball there's much less chemistry/intangibles to account for (but it still exists, contrary to what some have said in this thread).
     
  9. LCII

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    Moreyball: a movie. Directed by Christopher Nolan. Starring Javier Bardem as Luis Scola, Jay Sean as Kevin Martin, and ??? as Daryl Morey.
     
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    In statistical analysis, if an event can be observed, then statistics can be kept on it. For example, if a player like Shane Battier displays locker room leadership, that event can be statistically tracked. Of course, basketball is more complex, but that doesn't mean that Morey's methods are wrong.
     
  12. MadMax

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    i think that's absolute crap. i don't believe everything can be measured. more importantly, i don't believe every measurable can be tied to every possible variable.
     
  13. justtxyank

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    And if it can't be measured perfectly we should avoid even trying and just stick with "the way it's always been done" amirite?
     
  14. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Hakeem was picked in the coin flip era. There were no lottery balls. Formula FAIL.
     
  15. MadMax

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    oh, no...not at all. i'm not saying there's no value in statistical analysis...i'm saying i believe there are some things that simply can't be measured.
     
  16. justtxyank

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    Gotcha. In agreement then.
     
  17. LCII

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    wrong topic
     
  18. ashishduh

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    Nope.

    Btw I'm not anti-Murray but I'm sure even he knows that not all things can be calculated.
     
  19. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Moreyball works. Dallas uses it. The problem is with Les not willing to spend like Cuban.
     

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