What the hell was that? We have become WAY to predictable to the point that even Don Nelson knew to double team Mobley with his 2 best defensive players. How about using Mobes as a decoy, and then inbounds to an open perimeter shooter, Griffin maybe? At 6 ft 3, Mobley is not the ideal go-to guy because 90% of his last second shots are 25 ft heaves that are unanswered prayers. I realize we don't have a go-to guy inside, therefore, we should use Francis and Mobes as decoys for open shots. I'd rather have Dan Langhi attempt an open 15 ft jumper, than Mobley's 30 ft jumpers.
Mobley is 6'4" And do you understand exactly how far a 30' shot is behind the line. Like almost 6'4". quit lying to make your point good grief.
I think that shot was just bad circumstances by the Rockets, and very good inbounds defense by the Mavericks. The Mavs denied the ball to Francis, and the pass was only barely gotten into Mobley. At that point, we were screwed, because the Mavs double teamed Mobley by rotating such that Kenny Thomas was the only man that was open, but he was directly behind the double team, and Mobley probably couldn't even see him. If there had been more time for Mobley to react, he might could have adjusted and gotten a pass to someone or a better shot for himself, but that really just wasn't the case. I have to give credit to the Mavericks on that play, because they overplayed their men well on the inbounds play, and forced the Rockets into exactly what they wanted.
I see you edited your post to show that you don't understand the concept of sarcasm. Sarcasm or not, Mobley's last second shots are very low percentage shots. Would you agree?
I see you are running away from your exaggeration by calling it sarcasm. Not need to make a new thread to be sarcastic and exaggerate egregiously just to see the responses you get. this thread is lame...and you know it.
The fact that you can't admit that we hit about 10% of those Mobley last second shots outweighs the fact that I "exaggerated". This whole thread wasn't really about my 30 ft shot statements, but rather that Mobley hits very few of his 20 ft, 15 ft, whatever, shots that he takes at the end of games. It seems like your only point against what I am saying is that I exaggerated about the 30 ft shot. Although I can go back to one of the early season LA Laker games at home that we lost in OT, when Mobley really forced a 30 ft shot with 1 min left in the game. My "exaggeration" was reality in that one instance.
What does it matter how tall Mobley is? It was a stupid play out of a timeout and it's happened way too many times this year. When you can't get anything better than a 25 footer with two guys on you then there's a problem and it's not the defense.
If you think about it, most teams have go-to guys who are 6-6 or taller. This actually matters in the sense that they can go to the hoop and convert layups or at least attempt layups around 7 fters. It also matters, for stop and pop jumpers. Having height helps open up your options in terms of what kind of shot you can get off during the last 10+ secs of a game. With Mobley, his 6-4 height seems to limit him to ONLY take 20 ft fadeaways, with a hand in his face. A guy like Kobe can shoot basically anywhere on the court, knowing his shot will not be altered. Mobley doesn't have that luxury, and therefore "accepts" the 20 ft fadeaways. Maybe it has to do more with vertical/leaping ability, than actual height, but my basic point is that Mobley isn't able to pick his shot. He basically has to settle for what the defense gives him, and the defense won't be generous down the stretch. After all of the close losses we've had this year, is it really that hard to see?
Jeez, guys. We won the freaking game! Must you find something complain about no matter what? What would you suggest we have done in that situation? No matter WHO was given the ball on the inbounds, they would have been hounded. The Mavs played great D! If it had been Langhi instead of Mobley, he would have just coughed up a turnover, I am sure. At least we got it to one of our better dribblers. And kidrock, the decoy thing sounds great on the BBS, but it still would not have worked in tonight's particular instance. Mobley was not double teamed until after the ball was passed into him. So there is no reason to think that we could have gotten the ball to anyone else with any less defensive pressure. Give credit where credit is due here. The Mavs did a great job on that inbounds. Our options were limited. They defended the options we had very well.
Maybe so... But this isn't something that bothered me NOW, but over the last 2 years actually. We did win tonight, which was great, but it's no question why we have such a lousy record in close games. Why is it that other teams get clean looks at final shots, while our only shot is fading away? Maybe credit should be given to the defense. Which opens a new can of worms... Where is our defense down the stretch?
I think it's a huge exagerration to say that Mobley's height is contributing to close losses. Kobe isn't making any 25 footers with two guys hanging on him. Rudy simply isn't terribly good at getting our guys good shots off of set plays. We call a timeout and get a crap shot or let the shot clock expire. It seems to happen all the time.
Kobe is able to pass out of situations like that because of his height. Tonight was the perfect example of Mobley's 6-4 height hindering him when he was being doubled by 2 guys who were taller. Kobe is the best in the league at passing out of a would-be jumper. Also, Kobe usually takes the ball to the lane, so he ends up with a 10 ft fadeaway. I have yet to see Kobe be stuck in a bad spot down the stretch, since 2000 or so. Maybe when Kobe was an immature rookie, would he be put in bad spots.
So...kidrock8...Timing thinks you are exaggerating profusely, too. That's all of us, so far. Maybe you are exaggerating just to have a big hit thread. cute. I think I understand the sarcasm and exaggeration. Including Timing's exaggeration that coach's can design 3 second plays in the NBA that NBA defenses can't stop. Funny how if the opponents make an easy bucket on a 3 second call that is our fault, too. Let's see...with 3 seconds on the clock...maybe we should run a play like how Utah beat us in the playoffs with equal time on the clock. You get in the huddle and tell Malone to bear hug Drexler so Stockton doesn't have 2 guys in his face for his 25 footer. Simple play, and very effective. Maybe Kenny just forget to tackle Adrian Griffin...I never though of that. Or maybe we should run the Reggie Miller shove Jordan aside for the inbounds and 25 footer. Despite barely having time for one pass or a couple dribbles...maybe we can get Langhi open for a wide open shot...like McHale shoving that 25'er for the win when the Celtics used Bird as a decoy. Even still...3 seconds should be enough time to run a stack, split left...double fake...Francis/Mobley decoy to Langhi....wide open....Holly Mother!!!!...that's a good play. One pass or two dribbles...what play are you going to call. Just inbounds to a scorer...Thomas must clear room and set that pick, both defenders went around him instead to meet the inbounds pass. Kenny did not release...Mobley was dead in the water. The timing is crucial. You'all should know that. Very simple.
Honestly do you think if Mobley were 6'6" that he would pass more? I sure don't think so. Theoretically it would give him that option but if you watch Mobley you know he doesn't pass too much, especially late when he can be the hero.
There is no time for a pass on that play that couldn't equally be defended, unless it was direct result of overplaying (misplaying) the inbouds. You guys are getting off topic, and just using the 3 second play to chime in about your pet peeves. The topic is "Mobley's Final Shot" and tangentially, blaming Rudy for it. I say the defense ran around Kenny's intended pick and Kenny should have released....that is the only pass on that play. Kenny didn't release...and might not really had time on the clock to do so. The play was busted on a combination of defensive anticipation and lack of perfect timing between the inbounder, Mobley cutting, and Kenny clearing out at least one defender. busted play...but we need perfect timing and execution on 3 second plays to succeed, which is always the case unless you are going to cheat by bear huggin Drexler and shoving Jordan.
That's part of my point... Mobley isn't an ideal go-to guy IMO. I didn't mean to compare Mobley to Kobe, if you thought I did.
Actually, my point ISN'T limited to tonight's game, if you have not noticed. I am referring to the last 2 seasons or so. There have been plenty of times where we had the ball with 15+ seconds left, and Mobley still wouldn't find a way to get a good shot, or create a good shot for a teammate. You are reading way too much into tonight's game, as opposed to looking at the big picture. I will admit that tonight, it would have been tough to do much else, with 3.whatever seconds. But, there have been plenty of times where he have 15+ seconds and we ended up executing like we only had 1 second left on the clock. Surely you will agree with that? My whole point in this thread doesn't have much to do with tonight's game. I used tonight's game as 1 example of many, in which our last second shots have sucked.
Crispee if you're going to ramble on in anger when your idol is being outed for his lack of intelligent play then just don't read the posts. We're having a fine discussion without that kind of stuff. Nowhere have I said that coaches can design 3 second plays that defenses can't stop. Nowhere have I said anything about easy buckets. Coaches CAN design plays to get good shots, except for Rudy apparently. The Mavs are not exactly one of the better defensive teams in the league so I guess they were just "great" for those 3 seconds tonight strangely enough. Also, there is a difference between a good shot and any shot. If we're consistenly not getting a good shot out of timeouts (which I think it's clear that we're not) then it's not the defense unless you have some interesting new theory that you want to throw down. Maybe Marc Cuban had an X10 on Rudy's clipboard? Hmmmm...
