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Mobley already belongs on the all time Rockets team ever!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Zacatecas, Feb 19, 2002.

  1. Zacatecas

    Zacatecas Member

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    The Starting line up is:
    C-Hakeem
    PF-Malone
    SF-Rudy T
    SG-Drexler
    PG-Francis

    The rest of the 8-man rotation:
    C/PF-Hayes
    SG-Murphy
    PG-Lucas

    The end of the bench:
    C-Sampson
    PF-Barkley
    SG-Mobley

    Wow it has taken over 30 years to get these many names. Imagine if we could put that team on the floor. This team would go undefeated, even with the Lakers.

    Going back to the point, Mobley might end up as the heir apparent to Drexler as the best SG in the organization.
     
  2. Jared Novak

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    While I'll admit that Mobley is a good effective player, I wouldn't go as far as comparing him to Clyde Drexler. Not to mention the fact that Mobley should be coming off the bench, I don't like him as a starter, the Rockets need to pickup a solid defensive shooting guard who doesn't always look to score first, that way Francis can take more shots.
     
  3. Drewdog

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    Definitely. What we need to do is bench our second leading scorer who has averaged 27.7 ppg over the last 6 games.

    :rolleyes:
     
  4. Jared Novak

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    Mobley is only the leading scorer because he has the greenlight to take shots, even bad ones. I am simply stating that Mobley would be better coming off the bench. But thank you for your opinion.:rolleyes:
     
  5. Lil Francis

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    I understand what you saying but why would you want a man averaging 21 a game to come off the bench? What Mobley need is a solid backup. Someone like Michael Redd.
     
  6. Lil Pun

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    A lot of people on this board would argue with you about benching Mobley, as I am sure that you already know. I say keep him in there just get him to control the number of shots he takes and learn about a little ball movement.
     
  7. DCkid

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    Y'all crazy. Mobley is a starter in this league, no matter which way you slice it. His FG% is pretty typical of shooting guards today, and you can be critical of his defense all you want but I don't see how he's really so much worse than any one else. But there's only a handful of players in this league with the offensive game of Cuttino. His 3-point shooting has been incredible this season, and I can hardly think of anyone with a quicker first step. If you wanna call him a sixth man then that's your opinion, but he doesn't deserve any less than 35 minutes a night.

    Another thing, does anyone think Cuttino could survive playing small forward. I know everyone hates the 3-guard lineup, but its mainly because it includes Moochie. What if the Rockets were to get a true PG like a Tinsley or a Andre? Would you think of going with the three guard lineup then? After all, the line seperating the small forward and shooting guard position has thinned quite a bit in the last couple of years, and Cuttino is pretty much exactly what you look for in a small forward. He's able to hit the shot from the wing, and can slash to the hoop. Then Steve can move to the two-guard kind of like Iverson.
     
  8. finalsbound

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    Michael Redd sounds really, really good. :(
     
  9. Timing

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    For the same reason you don't want Oscar Torres scoring 21 points a game. A lot of people can score points if you build the offense around them and let them shoot whenever they want. Hello!?!
     
  10. krosfyah

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    Man, we just keep butting heads.

    So anybody can score 21 a game, huh? It's just that easy. Man, all these coaches and scouts have been wasting their time looking for talent. Amazing. We can pick up a scrub and get them up to speed in no time if we just alter the plays a little. :eek: Maybe that's why you aren't a coach.
     
  11. Timing

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    So who's a scrub? Mobley is a scrub or Oscar is a scrub? You make it sound like Mobley showed up and in two months was averaging 21 pts/game. The fact is that this is his 4th year here with RudyT and the whole offense has been tailored to him. If we played Oscar 30 minutes/game from now on and built the offense around setting picks for him to get open I'm confident that he could help us to the lottery 3 years straight and be up to 21 pts/game in his 4th season while shooting about 43% and then he could make his claim to NBA stardom like Cat and the Jason Terry's of the world.
     
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    So in other words you are saying Torres is just as good as Cuttino???????????
     
  13. Lil Francis

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    He is really good. If given the chance he can put up alot of points just like Cuttino.
     
  14. pasox2

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    I'd start Torres, and bring Cat off the bench with MoT. I prefer my shots distributed between the front court and backcourt, I think I've said. All backcourt is trouble.

    Francis- Griffin
    Cat - MoT

    Or

    Francis-Cat
    Moochie-Torres

    You choose. You can't have both.
     
  15. Timing

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    If Torres played 30 minutes/game for the next 4 years and had the offense changed for him I don't think it's out of the realm to say he'd be similarly productive. Torres can play.

    You know honestly when I saw Torres play in pre-season he looked just as good a Mobley but he seemed to wear down and get tired. I think a lot of people shared that opinion early in the season too even if they might not admit it now.
     
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  16. Drewdog

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    You guys can dream up any scenario possible with Cuttino coming off the bench, but the bottom line is this:

    1. No way in hell Rudy T benches the second leading scorer on his team.

    2. Mobley would be a CLEAR starter on any other team in the league.
     
  17. R0ckets03

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    I am sure glad some of you arent the real coach of the Rockets!!!!!!!

    Mobley off the bench is ****ing the stupidest idea I have ever heard. Yeah lets bench our second best player! :rolleyes:

    43% is pretty damn good for a freakin shooting guard. He is shooting better then Iverson and Jordan for crying out loud! What the hell do you people want Cuttino to be shooting at?!?!?! 55 freakin percent! He is a 2-guard, not a damn powerforward!

    Us benching Mobley is like the Lakers benching Kobe, the Kings benching Peja, the Mavs benching Finley, etc...

    Yeah lets bench Cat so we can have other crappy players shoot the ball instead! :rolleyes:

    You people who want to bench Cat are dorks!
     
  18. giddyup

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    Does anyone remember all those years that John Havlicek came off the bench for the Celtics and was a difference maker in the game?

    He defined that role... analgous to a relief pitcher. I know its not a perfect analogy, but is Billy Wagner one of the best players on the team?

    Teams are defined by roles. In baskeball, sixth men don't necessarily play minor minutes. It's about pacing the game.

    If MoT is such a fast starter, maybe having Cuttino coming in to pick up the lull would be a good thing.

    Yeah, he started later in his career BUT the Celts found another scoring threat to come off the bench: Steve Kuberski as I recall.
     
  19. Dr of Dunk

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    I'm gonna say Sweet Lew Lloyd was better than Mobley. :D
     
  20. Manny Ramirez

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    If you want to go by physical ability, then yes, I agree that Mobley is one of the best, not only on the Rockets but in the league period.

    However, the problem is that he *isn't mentally* smart when it comes to making critical basketball decisions.

    Now, he has done better of late, and yes Francis and most definitely Moochie are guilty of doing this. However, it seems to me that someone who is counted on so much by the team to take clutch shots really comes up with some plays that makes you shake your head.

    Of course, it doesn't help that Rudy sits back and never, at least it seems that way, chews him out for doing stupid mistakes.

    It's one thing to mess up, but when it is done repeatedly, it makes you wonder if it is not an accident but a trend.

    To say that Mobley is going to be on the level of Drexler when he hasn't shown, IMO, much maturity, basketball-sense wise is a statement that is unfathomable. Why don't we see how he plays in the next 5 to 10 seasons before we consider him to be at that level?
     

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