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Miller, Porter, Arceneaux!!

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by RocketSiv, May 25, 2000.

  1. RocketSiv

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    The newest players in for workouts are Florida Small Forward Mike Miller, Auburn Small Forward Chris Porter, Harold Arceneaux (Can't remember his school), and one other guy a power forward who would be a second round pick. I'm thinking they said his name was Booth but I could be wrong. Anyways on to the assesments. I think if we are still at 9 and Miller was still available most would draft Miller(Assuming Miles wasn't there) and everybody remembers Arceneaux. I was thinking he was a guard though which would not seem to fit into our plans. Is he a small forward? If so he would be a fun player to select. Porter would definately be a good pick with our second round pick if still there. I doubt he will be but if we get the Magic pick he might be a good pick up but I could not see Rudy taking 2 small forwards in the first round. I don't know about you'll but Porter kind of reminds me of Jerry Stackhouse when he first came out of school.

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    I didn't follow Stack in high school, but was he an undersized (6'4'') PF, the size of a shooting guard, with no jumper whatsoever?

    I wouldn't draft Porter till at best 35.....and that's a big stretch.

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  3. Hobbs

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    Stack was an undersized power forward with a questionable shot coming out of college, yes.

    He has a bit more speed and a much better dribble than Porter though. Porter could surprise and make the transition. I wouldn't think a second round pick (or even a late first round pick) would be wasted on Porter.

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  4. The Cat

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    Stackhouse was not a power forward in college. Wasn't there a guy named Rasheed Wallace who played that position? Anyway, I copied his college profile to show that:

    Full Name: Jerry Darnell Stackhouse
    Birthplace: Kinston, N.C.
    Birthdate: 11/5/74
    High School: Kinston (N.C.), then Oak Hill Academy
    College: North Carolina
    Height: 6'6"
    Weight: 218
    Position: SMALL FORWARD
    Number: 42
    Drafted: 1995 First round, third pick overall, by the Philadelphia 76ers.
    Acquired: Traded from Philalphia 76ers (12/18/97)

    Did Stackhouse have a questionable shot? Yes. But since he played small forward and sometimes shooting guard, he knew how to play from the perimeter. He could slash, defend, etc. Porter has always been a post player. Putting him on the perimeter would be a new experience for him, and not at all like Stackhouse who had played the perimeter his whole life. Who knows how Porter will respond? He has a power forward's game in a shooting guard's body. Unless he really showed something in workouts, I wouldn't take him until 35 at least.



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    Hmm, a Power Guard. Could be interesting. It's nice to have guards that can post up -- perhaps we could run a few plays with an inverted offense with Porter abusing the opposing team in the post. I could see that working if Cato could consitently hit a midrange jumper. How are his post passing skills?

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  6. knits stekcor

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    Antawn Jamison is about the same size as Porter, and he didn't turn out too bad.
     
  7. The Cat

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    Antawn Jamison is 6'9. Porter has been measured in pre-draft workouts at 6'5.

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  8. Hobbs

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    Stackhouse led them in rebounding and scored from the post, they can call him a small forward if they want, but he played like a power forward.

    I believe Rasheed Wallace was called a center in college.



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    Michael Finley is another guy. He dropped to the mid 20's because he was a SF/SG who played like a PF. He had no shot outside 5 ft. because he didn't need one. When it became necessary, he learned to shoot. I see many likenesses between Porter's and Finley's situations.

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    The way I remember it, Jerry Stackhouse was the power forward at UNC. Rasheed was definitely at the 5 spot. That was just what his position was because of his athleticism and lack of size on the Tar Heels. But he did have some perimeter skills, something that Porter COMPLETELY LACKS.

    Don't compare Jamison and Porter, cuz it's not close. Jamison was the college player of the year. Porter practically turned into a joke his senior year. When the guy finally steps up in a big game, it'll be the first time. I thought it was an abberation his junior year. But I now concede that it is something more than temporary. Porter doesn't have a tenth of Jamison's post up game. He doesn't have Jamison's lateral quickness. He can't even come close to rebounding like Jamison. He doesn't have a better outside jumper. But he can out jump Jamison. But Jamison gets off the ground faster than Porter.

    Porter will not be playing a guard position any time soon. He's a very good athlete for a post player. But he's turns ordinary as a guard. He doesn't have the speed or quickness to play the guard position. He's not a good defender to be begin with. He will be exposed as a poor guard defender.

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  11. RocketSiv

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    Very good point Ottoman. I personally like Porter more than Stackhouse. Porter is going to be a late first rounder or a second rounder while Stackhouse was a top 3 pick. I'd like to get him but we would have to have a second round pick to waste.

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