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Microsoft's Own Execs Think Vista Sucks

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by JeopardE, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. JeopardE

    JeopardE Member

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    They're currently faced with a class-action lawsuit over the fact that many hardware carry the "Vista capable" label and yet don't work properly. Disclosure of internal emails leads to fun, fun, fun. Some juicy excerpts:

    Plenty more where that came from.

    http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/132891.asp

    Lengthy email exchange (including a few chip-ins by Stephen I-hate-using-punctuation Ballmer):
    http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/library/vistaone3046.pdf
     
  2. Luckyazn

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    I can't stand VISTA!


    changed all my computers/laptop back to WINDOW XP!
     
  3. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    Another huge problem is even if the hardware is able to handle Vista, often the spammy software that PC companies put on their machine when its new does NOT work with Vista and leads to having to do a clean install due to performance issues.

    I have seen Vista work well, on upper end AMD machines with "clean" installs. The problem is most new machines don't fit that criteria.

    I guess the question now becomes: Is Vista the new ME? I don't think so, because its slowly being adopted by corporations, but jeez.
     
  4. Jeremiah

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    This is what I predicted a year ago. And with the next version of Windows projected for 2010, what's the point of upgrading now?
     
  5. meggoleggo

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    I've got XP on my computer at home, and I wouldn't dream of changing it. I'm stuck with Windows 2000 on my work laptop, and I'm pretty sure I'd rather run Vista than 2000. Even though I never really liked Vista in the first place - there isn't much they can do to make me change my mind about it anyway. But I'd give anything to run XP on this piece.
     
  6. LegendZ3

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    I recently built a new PC with pretty high specs: Quad Core cpu, 2 Gig of ram, and a decent video card. So I decided to try out Vista since it was offered to CS students for free. Man it was a pain. Basically I don't see much improvements from XP besides all the little gadgets and the eye candy, which both can be add to XP with 3rd party softwares. And the software approval thing was annoying as hell. After couple days of use and I was fed up and had to switch back to XP.
     
  7. hz10

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    The software approval thing is really annoying. Apple's OSX had that problem for a very brief time. They fixed it very quickly. I am amazed that MS has not learned that yet.
     
  8. JayZ750

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    We have a new laptop with Vista and don't care for it too much. No major problems, other then it just isn't intuitive, and we don't like it.
     
  9. Drexlerfan22

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    I strategically bought my new laptop a month before Vista was released.

    Best decision I ever made...
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    I have Vista at home and have no problems.
     
  11. Surfguy

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    I just got a new PC with Vista pre-loaded. I've had a few problems with Vista but nothing major to this point. The biggest problem I've had is a bug where the Control Panel will load and then close itself immediately, i.e. you cannot get to control panel items. Also, the Personalize feature when right clicking on the desktop won't open. This has been attributed to some "Software Licensing Service" services so I had to create a .bat file to stop and restart these services upon computer start-up. This is a temp fix. I've only had one blue screen so far...which may have led to this issue to begin with. I've also had some problems using Windows Dreamscene for my desktop background, i.e. playing a video as your desktop background. It will shut down with an error at times. The two games I have installed are very stable, however, and I haven't had a single in-game crash yet.

    Anyway, I'm anxiously waiting on SP1. I may download the SP1 beta and install it to see if it clears up my issues.

    Other than that...I haven't had any other issues. But, it's only been a week. lol
     
  12. DOMINATOR

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    you guys know you can turn UAC off (the software approval thing)

    works fine for me but i put it on new hardware... and i honestly can't tell a difference from XP but since vista was same price as XP i figured why not.
     
  13. JeeberD

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    Same here...
     
  14. wreck

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    vista sucks so bad. i get errors all the time trying to open media files and picture. it restarts my desktop. im like wtf!!!
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    Yeah, Vista was a big time eff up...
     
  16. Storm Surge

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    lmao can it be possible Microsoft loses their monopoly?
     
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    Another vote from someone who has Vista on a high-end Intel PC at home and a low-end laptop at work and it's been just fine. On my laptop (with only 1GB RAM) I simply set it to "Adjust for best performance" then made some tweaks and it's as usable as XP was.
     
  18. Harrisment

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    Vista works fine for me, sounds like you guys just don't know what you're doing. :p
     
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    My girlfriend has it on her computer and I don't care for it too much. For one thing it runs ridiculously slow...at first I thought it was either spyware or she just had a bare-bones machine, but I looked at the specs on it and it was pretty decent, plus she said it ran slow even when she first got it.

    Other than that it just seems like a lot of software isn't compatible with it, and everyone is going to be reluctant to switch to it now.
     
  20. demon77

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    I would say every Microsoft's OS sucked except for windows 2000. I use xp, and its kinda like "okei" after applying a patch to get rig of the gay stuff and setting it back to the classic GUI.

    Microsoft doesn't do extensive testing (i was testing game for them once, but they were gay in term of "I don't give a crap as long as it sell/work"). And its not just MS, almost all developer does it, leaving the testing to the public user, and let them find the bugs/exploit, then they fix it base on the "severity" of the problem (mainly b/c they have ridiculous deadline).

    I just hate the fact that more and more programmer are designing their program to be as simplistic as possible for the typical "don't have a clue" user (also the GUI are becoming gayer and gayer in term of "usability"). And we have to end up with relying on 3rd party's patches to do more technical stuff.
     

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