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Miami's Strategy?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Dubious, Jun 25, 2010.

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  1. Dubious

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    Can someone explain to me how totally gutting your team helps you in the free agency rush? I understand that Miami is trying to get under the cap enough that they can sign 3 Max contracts, but since the top FA's can make more money under a Sign and Trade from their existing team, isn't Miami just shooting itself in the foot by having no trade assets?
     
  2. mickey_angelo

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    Not every player will move via S&T, but even in a case of S&T Miami could offer a trade exception(+ Micheal Beasley). It's not the best way to lure FA(or rather the way I would do it) but it is a viable option(think Knicks).
     
  3. DaDakota

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    It is probably the single most risky strategy I have seen in my lifetime regarding the NBA.

    And I am following it closely because it could work out our seriously bomb on them.

    If D Wade goes elsewhere or they don't get a couple of max players, they will be fielding a D-league level team for the next 5 years.

    DD
     
  4. ElPigto

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    Not that they were almost already doing so, lol. ;)
     
  5. da_juice

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    I thought there was a rule that a team had to have at least 8 players on the team?
     
  6. ElPigto

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    I think that applies to the start of training camp or season (one of those two).
     
  7. DarylMoney

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    If you aren't advancing past the first round then it's pointless to just stay average.

    Their roster was garbage and they have positioned theirselves to land some top level talent. The NBA is all about having a "Big 3" and solid role players for the most part.


    If D Wade does walk they have a ton of money, and even if they do suck for for 2-3 years they will have a ton of picks and money to spend.
     
  8. da_juice

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    Yeah, I mena with all that money someone's bound to play there.
     
  9. dropshot001

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    it's a big risk, but i think they'll land at least one of the big names.
     
  10. Ricksmith

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    itll probably be d wade + amare or bosh. then use the rest to sign good role players, rather than 3 max guys and call up an entire d league team to fill the roster.
     
  11. Williamson

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    I actually think Miami has a very good chance to land Amare + Joe Johnson. Remember when the Celtics gutted their team in trades to acquire Garnett and Allen? All they had left on their roster was Rondo and Perkins - and neither were all that great at the time. Well, it paid off.

    And a core of Wade, Johnson and Stoudemire is as good or better.

    I also think Chicago stands a very good chance of adding Lebron and Bosh. A lineup of Rose, James, Deng, Bosh and Noah might be the best starting 5 in NBA history.
     
  12. RV6

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    I cant see the team doing this without having a heads up from Wade...i think Wade made it clear to them he was staying and probably already recruited bosh or amar'e for them already.....and like i said before, there are enough FAs out there they can sign for 3 mill or less, and not just scrubs... JVG mentioned it last night, that there's quality guys out there they can recruit and still field a team to contend in the East, at the very least.

    They already made some nice picks last night in the 2nd round, not really starter material, but capable back ups.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    It's interesting to speculate how long it would take to be competitive if they did strike out. They wouldn't have much to do trades with. They could sign people, but could easily end up overpaying. Still, a couple years of high lotto picks, and smart management* could get you a middle-of-the-pack team even without a franchise-player FA. So, I don't think the cost of this gamble is very high, considering they are mediocre right now.

    * Of course, why would you expect smart management from the team that destroyed itself? ;)
     
  14. waytookrzy079

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    just because if they cant land the "BIG 3" in free agency (wade, lebron, and bosh) doesnt mean that they cant get some other serviceable players.

    I'm pretty confident that Wade will be there. They have a lot of other options out there that are available (Boozer, Amare, David Lee, Joe Johnson, Dirk, and Rudy Gay (restricted))

    They can then use the left over money to bring in additional FA's to fill other rolls/needs.
     
  15. Deckard

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    I wouldn't put it past Riles to pull off a surprise with these moves. He's won everywhere he goes, adapting his style to his players. Now, he's getting the players surrounding Wade, he hopes, to fit the style of play that he sees as working best in today's NBA. Who he gets and what system they will be playing is going to be fun to watch. Will we get Showtime in Miami? Maybe we will.
     
  16. glimmertwins

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    Miami has a history of gambling under the Riley regime. It worked out for them when they gambled on Shaq and got a title but I'm not so sure they will be lucky gambling so aggressively again. Remember the reason why they suck so bad right now is fallout of the Shaq gamble. He declined rapidly, they had to take bad contracts to get rid of him and they had to sign aging vets to cheap contracts to fill out the roster(Gary Payton, Anfernee frickin Hardaway!). Yes, Miami will end up with at least one "big" name but I don't think they will be serious title contenders anytime soon if they have to rely on the talents of guys like Joe Johnson, Carlos Boozer, or even Amare Stoudamire surrounded by scrubs.
     
  17. tested911

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    I think people are forgetting that his off-season isn't just about SuperStars in free agency.. But there is a lot of good talent in the tier 2-3 range that can be had. Miami just has to sign 1 Max player (Which I think they will) and sign a lot of good talent because they have the cap space.
     
  18. larsv8

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    Miami is stupid.

    Best case, they gonna end up with Wade, Johnson and Amare and nothing else.

    Wade and Johnson are creeping up on 30 and by the time they assemble any semblence of an actual "team" Wade/JJ will be declining.

    Worst case, they get nobody and Wade bolts because they literally have nothing at all on thier roster.

    You just cant build a team that way.
     
  19. glimmertwins

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    I think Riley's strategy is flawed like all the teams looking for big money to grab multiple stars. A legit contender starts with a couple of true stars - this much is obvious, but from a financial perspective your roster has to be built with value contracts too. I look at the Knicks and Heat for instance, and I see very little value in any of the contracts there. You need those stars but you also need some bargains which means identifying players who are better than what they are paid or drafting young talent who contribute immediately....but the "all in" strategy pays guys what they are worth which is not a smart way to collect talent under the CBA rules. Yes, the Knicks or Heat may get a couple of big names but filling out a roster around those guys will be brutal. The Celtics at least had some high value guys in Perkins and Rondo who made far less than their contribution....the Bulls will have Noah and Rose still on rookie deals. The Heat and Knicks - they got nothing. You just can't buy your way to a NBA title like you can in baseball.
     
  20. studogg

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    in the nba, it is better to be bad than mediocre. a truly bad team can resurrect itself with two drafts and quality fa signings.

    and last i checked, south beach ain't a bad place to be when you're rich.
     

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