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METRO Claims 3rd Victim, Continues to Terrorize Houstonians

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Dec 19, 2003.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    It's a good thing we just gave METRO's President a huge pay raise! Her record on timeliness of construction and safety are simply outstanding! What a joke. Your hard-earned tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen. METRO continues it's impressive streak of failures. I'm glad Houston voters were smart enough to give them a multi-billion dollar mandate to continue this debacle.

    Metro to re-evaluate safety after 3rd light-rail accident
    By SALATHEIA BRYANT

    Metropolitan Transit Authority police said the agency will re-evaluate its safety campaign after another vehicle was hit by a Metro light rail train today after making a prohibited left turn.

    Today's accident was at least the third involving a Metro train and a private vehicle since the agency began testing its trains a couple months ago.

    Metro police have stepped up their efforts recently to educate pedestrians and motorists about train safety.

    "These signs are not new," said Metro police Capt. Tim Kelly, referring to the posted "No Left Turn" signs on Main Street. "The train is very quiet, and you have to be aware of it. We think we're doing everything we can to make it safe."

    The accident occurred around 10:30 a.m., near the intersection of Main and Alabama. Officials at the scene said the driver of the dark gray Nissan XE pickup was northbound on Main and tried to turn left in front of the train, which was also northbound. The train hit the truck at about 20 mph.

    The driver, who was briefly pinned in his vehicle, was hospitalized, according to KHOU-TV. The Metro train appeared to have minor damage, but the driver of the train was uninjured.

    "The train operator did all she could to avoid the accident," said Kelly.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Maybe some people should learn to watch where their going. This seems to be a fairly avoidable accident.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    Not only that, but some people should learn not to take illegal left turns. Learn to read a traffic sign, people! Turning left on Main has been illegal for a long time.
     
  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    This is the *third* accident in the test runs alone. Imagine when this train is running all day every day! We're not going to have enough body bags to get these people to the morgue.

    The liberals moaned and groaned about the negligence of the first car that hit the train. Then came a second. Then a third. Clearly a problem exists. If you fail to recognize this much, then logic tells me that you are the type of voter who authorized this disaster in the first place.
     
  5. A-Train

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    Is this the same "no left turn" sign that is RIGHT NEXT TO a "one way" sign with the arrow pointing left? Who's the dumbass that put those signs next to each other, anyways? Take out that one way sign, and you're problem is solved
     
  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Come on T_J. As a conservative (like me), I would think that you would expect personal responsibility from the people. Do not make illegal turns, watch where you are going, etc. Not being from Texas, I don't know much of the politics behind the light rail. I am guessing from your use of the phrase "The liberals moaned and groaned" that you object to the light rail on political grounds and are using this avoidable accident to attack it on safety. I'll say that I think light rail in San Jose was a big waste of money that did not seem to help the rush hour traffic problems while I was working there, but the trains were not too difficult to avoid being hit by.
     
  7. flamingmoe

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    so since 3 people are driving illegally and cause accidents, this means that the whole METRO agency is a failure and its rail projects are a debacle?

    you have the over-dramatic flare of a drag-queen

    why don't you apply your 'self-responsbility' diatribe to the auto-drivers of houston to you love to apply to education and welfare reform?

    ahh yes, because it doesn't further your fringe-minority political agenda
     
  8. bnb

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    Nope.

    But it means there is a problem with signage or traffic patterns. One accident could be dismissed. Three -- during test runs is too many.

    Time to spend more money on accident prevention. Perhaps a new study is needed??;)
     
  9. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I'm basing my evaluation of Metro on much more than this:

    1) Cost overruns
    2) Huge delays in construction
    3) Ripping up the city of Houston's streets for 4 years
    4) Damaging untold numbers of vehicles downtown and in the med center
    5) Running vendors and store owners out of business downtown
    6) Ruining Houston's aesthetic appeal for 4 years
    7) Doing nothing to ease congestion
    8) Diverting money away from much needed road repair/expansion to a toy train system that will benefit approximately 1% of the population
     
  10. rimrocker

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    I'm all for it... it will increase the proportionality of Democrats in Harris County.
     
  11. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    People, as someone not living in Houston, I think I can see this will objective lucidity, and let me share my perspective.

    I believe it is now obvious. Someone is paying people to become METRO martyrs. I know this is shocking, chilling news, but think about it. How could people be so stupid as drive parallel to a large train and then take an illegal turn to place themselves exactly in front of the train?

    Answer: on purpose, that's how. Now, I will leave it to your keen insights to figure out who could be evil enough to be paying these METRO martyrs. Who opposes the project in a very vocal manner? Who has disposable income, say, even after pimping out a luxury SUV and dropping embarrassing amounts of money at Treasures?
     
  12. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Actually, if it runs only in the inner city, it is far more likely to be hitting DemonCrats than Republicans.
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Who invokes the inflamatory religious extremist rhetoric of a jihad by interposing the word "demon" into the titles of his enemies?
     
  14. rimrocker

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    You're forgetting that a lot of Republicans feel entitled and more important than others. Hence, they are more likely to be in a hurry and think the traffic laws don't apply to them. After all, rules are made to be broken and anyone who pays attention to those "little people" rules is just a big sucker in life, right?
     
  15. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Sizzle Chest -

    You clearly lack perspective on this issue if you are able to make light of such a horrific situation. These death boxes that we call light rail trains have made the streets of Houston an enrivonment unfit for cars, women or children. The trains careen out of control down one of the busiest streets in town with reckless abandon. If you are in their way, then too bad. You will soon be food for worms.
     
  16. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Et tu, Jorge? You made a rude pun with the term "light," but I'll let that slide.

    Honestly, I am wondering how this new, confusing, 20mph huge visible train will fit with an enormous influx of not-smart visitors for the Superbowl. I'm not kidding. If Houstonians can somehow drive in front of trains, what's going to happen with weary, traffic-addled sports reporters from, say, Alabama?
     
  17. flamingmoe

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    1. and yet i dont hear you getting your panties in a bunch over the Halliburton debacle

    2. road construction being delayed? OMG,. this never happens in any other city..

    3. when you build new roads or remake roads, of course you will tear up the roads, this will go on for the rest of your life in every city you ever live in

    4. link?

    5. link?

    6. Houston has never had an aesthetic appeal - the thousands of billboards and stip malls do more to destory aesthetic appeal than road contruction

    7. I think adding 40+ new bus routes, building new park and ride centers, new buses, plus the train and future expansiion of the trains will do all that they can to help congestion. Until Houston stops the urban spraw, congestion is going to happen during rush hour....and this isn't even touching the whole zoning issue which is the root cause for a lot of traffic problems.

    8. which road projects have been elimated because of train funding?

    do please back up your claims with facts instead of broad generalizations
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    Forget it. T_J never provides facts, he just spews propaganda from his leash holders.
     
  19. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Bush has demanded that Halliburton make taxpayers whole. Oops, it would have helped had you known that.

    The extent of Houston's traffic problems are truly legendary. You must not be familiar with the situation.

    The extent of Houston's damaged streets are truly legendary. You must not be familiar with the situation.

    Have you *ever* read the Houston Chronicle? The articles run on an almost daily basis which detail how drivers cars are torn apart by potholes and ripped up streets. They also talk about how foot traffic downtown has slowed to business to a crawl. Shop and restaurant owners are closing down shop.

    This doesn't justify making it worse. Nice try.

    The minimal efforts that this plan mades for the things that you cite could be doubled many times over were it not for the billions allocated to the toy trains.

    The road projects that would have been funded by the billions of dollars.

    I commend your effort at attempting a debate. However, I issue you a verbal reprimand for your lack of knowledge regarding the city of Houston's traffic nightmares.
     
  20. flamingmoe

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    uhmmmm

    T_J, you never directly refuted a single thing I had to say..you responded with more broad general statements that have nothing to do with the facts at hand.

    I was born and raised in Houston and continue to reside here,I am very familar with road construction. It has been going on since I can remember. Like I said, urban sprawl, the city never having real mass-transit and the lack of zoning are all more direct causes of Houston's traffic problems. Not METRO trying to do something about the problem.

    Will road contruction be messy and annoying? of course

    Do the long-term benefits outweight the short-term hassels? absolutely

    the voters of the city of Houston agree with me
     

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