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Memento - help me figure this out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by haven, Jul 20, 2001.

  1. haven

    haven Member

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    I saw this movie again last night. What do you guys think really happened?

    Possiblilities:

    1. The cop was just using him for the cash; John G is a figment of Leonard's imagination.

    2. Leonard killed John G a long time ago, and entered a mutually beneficial relationship with the cop - one gets fulfillment and the other gets rich.

    3. Leonard killed his wife - cop is using him.

    I don't believe this is possible because Leonard would have been unable to create any memories regarding his wife's death if this were true. If he had killed her, he wouldn't even remember she was dead. Also, he would have been unable to alter the Sammy Jenkis memory.

    4. Anything else? I had more ideas last night, but they're leaving me [​IMG].

    I found the movie extremely depressing but well-done. I think the director was less concerned with plot than making certain points about memory and meaning... and all the conclusions he came to were sad. First nihilist solipsist movie I've ever seen [​IMG]!


    I know that there was already a thread about this, and I wanted to resurrect it, but the search utility is down, and my impatience won the war.

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  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    haven

    Did you catch the last scene right before the credits ran? There was a picture of Leonard in bed with his wife and he was tattooed on the left side of his chest with "I did it". In addition, his original tatoo extending across his upper chest was evident.

    I will wait til it comes on DVD (09/04), and watch it again.

    go to www.otnemem.com

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    Oddly enuff, I've forgotten what I used to think about this movie [​IMG]



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  4. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Bobrek, but wasn't he being manipulated at that point? He probably got rid of that tatoo because he knew it was wrong....my memory is very vague on this whole movie.

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  5. haven

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    bobrek: One reviewer claimed that was a "victory" tattoo which referred to the death fo John G. They thought it was supposed to symbolize his satisfaction and peace after killing the murderer.

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  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    But how did he have the "I did it" tatoo after killing the murderer YET still be pictured with his wife?

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  7. haven

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    bobrek: I think the reviewer meant that it was a fantasy; sort of a: "well, I've avenged her, now I can live with my memories of her without so much pain" sort of thing. I'm not saying that's correct, so much as I'm not sure how the other interpretation woudl work either. Why would a tattoo disappear?

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    *SPOILER* *SPOILER*

    For heaven sakes, haven, warn people about spoilers. Sheesh.

    Many many possibilities. I like the idea that Leonard is Sammy Jankis. Leonard killed his wife with insulin and invents the John G. story, then escapes from a mental hospital and goes on his killing spree. (The police report detailing his wife's attack invalidates this theory, though).

    Maybe the image of Leonard and his wife with the "I did it" tattoo is just a delusion - a crazy image runnng through Leonard's head. Only explanation that satisfies me.

    Here's a great Salon article: http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2001/06/28/memento_analysis/index.html

    [edit: oooh - I like haven's "well, I've avenged her, now I can live with my memories of her without so much pain" theory - good work]

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  9. tozai

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    if you go to slate.msn.com
    theres a long article regarding this movie somewhere in the archives

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  10. haven

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    jammie:

    Thought the title of the thread gave away the fact that spoilers were contained...

    ...nevertheless, point taken. I'll try to include such in the future [​IMG].

    Good article, btw.

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  11. Dr of Dunk

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    Hell, man, I opened the thread up thinking you were looking for pricing on old baseball cards or other mementos... lol.

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