What?! In his wildest wet dreams, Mobley couldn't begin to handle the ball like Jason Williams. I agree, however, that Griffin and Swift do not need to be involved. University (Pass-ion) Blue
last year, they both had similar TO/game numbers (JW 2.2 vs Cat 2.3) with williams being closer to 3 per game over his career.. so what if he can dribble? dribbling doesn't put the ball in the basket. williams shoots less than 40%. cat is over 43% or something like that. besides, we don't need another overpaid point, and we don't need to ship off a two-guard for a one.
Well, since you have statistics, how can I argue? I agree with your assertion about dribbling, but I thought we were talking about Jason Williams -- not Cuttino Mobley. University (.38437) Blue
When you really break it down, do you want your starting front court to both be under 6'4"? I like the player, but not with Francis having to play the 2. He is a defensive liability at the PG position, put him on Kobe, Finley, Wally, or any of the above average 2's in the league and then you will now have 2's having career scoring nights (instead of PG's) on a nightly basis.
This is an interesting trade idea but on shear youth and potential I do not want to part with Griffin. I also consider Mobes better than JWill. Therefore I would not want this trade unless a first round pick came with them because a Memphis first rounder is a great pick. But something to keep in mind, and this is why I always want no trades, all of our players are similar in age, which means they will mature at about the same time, which means we have the chance to form good team chemistry like the 94' Rockets. Also, please use correct grammar and spelling in thread titles. Unlike most websites, CC.net tries to look neat and professional without web slang or intentional typos or abbreviations, especially in thread titles. Not to be an arse, just letting you know.
it's good you only compared their TO numbers....how about you try adding in the assists too. Cat = 2.9 and J-Will = 8.3 Those 8.3 assists put the ball in the basket.
robbie380 & anderlicht.. the university blue guy asked about jason williams 'hande'. that's dribbling, not assists. besides, if cats primary role was to pass the ball, i would hope that his asst:to ratio would go up slightly , but then again.. this is cuttino we're talking about here. i'll admit that there's probably something lost in looking at someone's handle by the number of turnovers/game they put up. a lot of both players' turnovers probably come off bad passes and such. sure, jw has a better handle. nobody is arguing that. however, i think UniBlue puts too much emphasis on his dribbling alone. this isn't prison ball or the and1 tour they play on espn2. there's guys at UT who run on IM teams with better handle than mobley. so does that make it a good trade if we could ship mobley to an IM team? some days, i think it's up for debate. sort of on a tangent here but did anyone catch it when and1 came to houston a few weeks ago? i can't believe they charged people to see them. the cheapest tix were $16. gimme a break. thats more than a rox game. halftime rap concert aside, anyone who went think it was worth it?
i feel the same way. i'd hate to see jwill at the forward. but you're right in the fact that it really would suck to have a couple short guards as starters and that francis is pretty awful at defense. don't forget that jwill isn't all-defensive-team either. but i guess they're not as bad as mobley's patented yell-at-your-opponents brand of D. i still remember ginobili lighting him up in his breakout game. getting back to the question, this would be a bad trade.
Have you ever seen any of Francis, Mobley, and Williams play? Mobley has a better chance of stopping somebody than a Francis/Williams double team. Francis might be the worst starting PG defender in the NBA and Williams is marginally better, if at all.
Real-life is nothing like a video game, where ratings can be manipulted on someone's whim and often are, especially since the "official" ratings have not been updated in a year. As for the trade: Memphis believes they have a leader in JWill. Why on Earth would they trade him? Of their PGs, only Earl Watson and Brevin Knight could be had in a trade, and neither is more than a backup.
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even tho i think mobley's worse at defense than you seem to believe, I couldn't help but crack up at the double team remark. if you really think francis and williams are that bad at D, then of course mobley is better than that double team!
