McUgly

I got to watch this live yesterday on PPV. The play with T-Mac getting the ball was pretty physical, but the refs weren't calling very many fouls. Duncan and just about every other big man on the team were getting pounded in the paint and getting no calls. I remember T-Mac going in to dunk on somebody but he got "blocked" according to the refs. Didn't see much of that in the NBA. I really wasn't that surprised that they didn't call a foul on the play.

When T-Mac finally got the ball and looked back, I thought he was looking back to see if anyone else on the team was coming for an alley-oop or something. But he just dunked it and on the way back him and the other guy kind of bumped into each other and then all the players and coaches stepped in to stop them.

The foul on O'Neal was really hard. The guy just tried to take off his arm, I think. O'Neal was already in the air, I think trying to dunk it, so he wasn't happy at being stopped. K Mart looked like he was trying to start something with the guy who fouled O'Neal by getting all close to him and stuff. I didn't see him taunt the crowd.

At the end, all was forgiven I guess because both teams gathered at halfcourt and had a huddle. Looked pretty cool and sportsmanlike.

 

That's exactly the way I interpreted it too. I didn't see what the big deal was. Then again, we have a guy from Spain on the Nugs board I post on who pretty much thinks T-Mac deserves the death penalty for that move.

 

That ESPN story seems inaccurate to me as well. When I saw the McGrady play, I thought it was the other guy jumping into McGrady a couple of times. Then a look came across T-Mac's face, like "I am tired of that crap" and McGrady started taking swipes for the ball.

I am glad he got the ball and was able to get a dunk. It seems obvious from the post game news conference with Coach Brown and Ray Allen that the US team was very frustrated by how the game was officiated. Added to that is the US had to play the same hackers for 5 games. McGrady might have looked for a teammate when he peered downcourt after getting the steal, but I think he was also looking at the defender.

I don't blame the guy for getting frustrated. I am sure that the gameplan against the Americans is to play as physical as the refs will allow. It might have been in poor taste, but I can understand where T Mac was coming from.

 

Yeah, I saw the game on PPV too. First of all, McGrady was getting assbumped by the dude. Casiano was just jumping backwards into McGrady. The physical play was all initiated by Casiano. After 2 such booty bumps by Casiano, McGrady got a look on his usually calm face and just started swiping at the ball, thinking, I guess, "if he can ram his ass into me, they can't call a foul for me slapping his hands."

Also, the taunt, at first, I thought it was because he was waiting for an alley-oop. But after looking at the replays, it looked like he was staring straight at Casiano, as if to say "this is what you get for trying to f*ck around with me." Although others can say that since he didn't do a highlight reel dunk, that he wasn't really trying to taunt Casiano.

All in all, I don't think you can hate McGrady for what he did if you had seen the game. It was an ugly game overall and that was just a slight altercation between 2 competitive players.

BTW- did you see that one Puerto Rican get hit by a drink during the fight? I think his name was Fajardo or something like that. It was funny, I was laughing at the Puerto Ricans for hitting one of their own!

 

There's a bit of a difference between showboating and being a racist.

 

which jason williams made racial comments?

 

You must not be a fan of very many players!

 

ha ha but many are my friend. So Tmac doesn't need a fan like you! That's great, I wish mac would have thrown it off the glass and hammered it home like he did in the all star game or on Skip Aka Rafer alston vs TDot,lol.

 

i think the only thing you could fault mcgrady was when after the dunk. he went back to the players, the other guy said something and mcgrady was immediately at his chest and he seemed like the aggressor. he seemed to taunt his smaller opponent to try something.

as for the play, i think it was fair. the guy bumped tracy real hard and weird. he even tried to sneak in his leg to push mcgrady back.

as for the dunk, i think he was mostly looking at his own teammates. either he was trying to see if they're telling him not to score, the ref stopped the game, or he was waiting to throw up an alley op.

 

I doubt McGrady was looking back for an alley oop receiver, because if that were the case then that is likely what he would have told the press. Saying he thought he heard a whistle sounds like coverup to me...but it's not really a big enough deal to get worked up about. Players stare each other down in games all the time in the NBA.

 

I don't mind it. The dude was being a tool and took a freaking greg louganis swan dive, just like the tactics that Flopton, Laimbeer, Vlade, Milller, and all those other guys use: In other words, they were cheating.

Guys who flop are cheaters, and so he his face rubbed in it when it didn't work out. Next time, maybe he shouldn't cheat and such embarassment could be avoided.

 

I don't know what happened on the O'Neal play but if he was fouled hard and intentional like some people are implyin, then i think Martin should defend him...thts just how i see it.

 

I really didn't get to see it that well since the 1st time was live, though I thought it could have been a hard foul. On the replay, it looked like a hard foul, if not a flagrant. Those were the only times I got to see it.

I didn't really agree with what Martin did though. O'Neal looked like he was about to do something back after the foul, but turned back, I guess to prevent a T or something. Meanwhile, out of no where comes Martin who comes in and bumps the guy from behind and gets in his face. I don't really like the whole retaliation(SP?) thing you sometimes see in all the sports. I would just work harder and win without getting something started.

After all, if we take an eye for an eye, we will then be blind...or something like that. I saw it on that Gandhi movie.

edit: BTW, what did O'Neal do that warrants being disliked like Martin and T-Mac, supposedly? Was it something I missed that he did in the tournament? Or is it the comments he made about him not signing had the Pacers gotten rid of Thomas?

 

McUgly = 87-71 -- A 16 point win against powerhouse Puerto Rico??? Yikes.

 

They must've been taking a break because they destroyed Argentina by 33 in the gold medal game. Sweet.