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Maybe now Dick will get some love.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Aug 25, 2004.

  1. basso

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    seems like good news?

    http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20040825/a_cheney25.art.htm

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    Cheney says he's against marriage amendment
    By Susan Page
    USA TODAY

    Vice President Cheney broke with President Bush on Tuesday on the question of same-sex marriage, saying he believes the issue should be left to the states. “Freedom means freedom for everyone,” he said at a campaign rally in Davenport, Iowa.

    “Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue our family is very familiar with,” Cheney said as his daughter Mary stood in the audience. He said he opposes the constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage that Bush has endorsed.

    “But the president makes basic policy for the administration,” he added.

    Cheney's comments were remarkable on several fronts. He acknowledged his daughter's homosexuality in a more direct way than ever before. While he said in the vice presidential debate in 2000 that the issue of gay marriage should be left to the states, he had not publicly reiterated that view since Bush's decision in February to embrace a federal constitutional ban.

    In fact, administration observers were hard-pressed to think of any other issue on which Cheney has publicly disagreed with Bush after a decision had been made.

    The vice president also made his comments as Republicans began debating the party platform in New York. The draft was expected to endorse the constitutional amendment. But the GOP convention that opens Monday has been designed to project a moderate image — including prime-time speeches by such party moderates as California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who supports gay and abortion rights.

    Steven Fisher, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest advocacy group for gay men and lesbians, said Cheney's comments showed divisions in the Republican Party.

    “President Bush is feeling the heat from swing voters and moderate Republicans who oppose discrimination and who oppose the issue of gay marriage in the Constitution,” Fisher said.

    Some analysts suggested the vice president's words were smart politics. They could be reassuring to moderates and independent-minded suburban voters concerned that the administration was intolerant in its attitudes toward gays. Lynne Cheney made similar comments in an interview on CNN last month.

    But Gary Bauer, a leading social conservative who heads a think tank called American Values, expressed dismay. “My only concern is that in a very close election, his comments could confuse and demoralize voters that President Bush desperately needs,” said Bauer, who was in New York for the platform deliberations.

    Cheney spoke in response to a questioner who asked, “I would like to know, sir, from your heart — I don't want to know what your advisers say, or even what your top adviser thinks — but I need to know: What do you think about homosexual marriages?”

    Mary Cheney, director of vice presidential operations for the Bush campaign, has declined requests for interviews this year. But in an interview with USA TODAY in January 2001, she said her parents “both look you in the eye and tell you the truth, tell you what they're thinking.”
     
  2. MadMax

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    I don't that thread title means what you think it means.
     
  3. basso

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    from the folks around here...
     
  4. Jeff

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    Well, that's one thing we have in common. We don't mind lesbians. :D
     
  5. basso

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    but i don't get why so many lesbians hate bush...
     
  6. Rocketman95

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    Alright Cheney!
     
  7. outlaw

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    he says he's personally against it but he still supports Bush supporting the amendment.

    don't be fooled. that was a choreographed stunt yesterday to appeal to socially moderate voters. did you hear how long and well prepared his answer was to the question?

    the Repubs are trying to have it both ways here.
     
  8. GreenVegan76

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    Way to go, Dick!

    I agree 100-percent -- love is love.
     
  9. No Worries

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    DEATHBED CONVERSION.

    I don't expect for it to take.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    Nice thread title and thread :D.
     
  11. GreenVegan76

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    Oh, I agree. But it was still nice to hear it from Dr. Claw.
     
  12. outlaw

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    not if it the ploy works and it convinces people to vote for them
    i read somewhere it was estimated that 25% of gay Americans voted for Bush/Cheney in 2000. that's a pretty big chunk that could make a difference in a close election.
     
  13. No Worries

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    Not only will Dick get some love, Dick will get some forbidden gay love. The acorn does not fall far from the tree!!!
     
  14. ima_drummer2k

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    There's a joke in there somewhere...
     
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    MARY CHENEY: (Chuckles as she opens up one of the letters. She reads it) "Dear Dick, last night with you was bliss. I fear my.. orgasm (She now has everyone's attention) has left me a cripple. I don't how how I shall ever get back to work.. (George W. and Colin make odd faces as Mary is still concentrating on the notes) I love you madly, James. (Pause) P.S. Loved the cabin." (George nods, and Colin gives a "Oh, of course" reaction)

    (A long pause)

    GEORGE: Well, we.. we, we, ah..

    COLIN: (Looking at his watch ) Yeah..

    GEORGE: We really should be, uh, heading out..

    COLIN: Yeah. (Tapping his watch) Look at the time.

    GEORGE: You know, the time..

    (Mary's father is now standing in the hallway)

    MR. CHENEY: The box! (Rushes toward George, grabbing the box away from him, then the letters from Mary's hands) My letters! Gimme that! (Now holding them against his chest, defensively) Who told you to open this?!

    MRS. CHENEY: (Hysterical) Who's James?! Who's James?!

    BARBARA BUSH: (Yelling out) I knew it!

    MRS. CHENEY: I want to know who John is!

    RUMSFELD: James McGreevey?! Dick, you and James McGreevey?!

    MR. CHENEY: (Proclaiming) Yes! Yes, he was the most wonderful person I've ever known. And I love him deeply! In a way you could never understand.. (Slowly walks back to his room, leaving everyone speechless. Mary seems to be affected the most. A long pause passes. Colin gives George a signal that they should go)
     
  16. GreenVegan76

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    Instant classic. I'm still laughing.

    COLIN: Yeah. (Tapping his watch) Look at the time.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    It is always sad when Dick and Bush are not compatible.

    DD
     
  18. HayesStreet

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    boo ;)
     
  19. IROC it

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    Six degrees of constipation?
     
  20. DCkid

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    Haha! Impressive, RM. :D
     

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