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Maybe if Griffin had a BULLHORN, his teammates could see he was wide open!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by barbourdg, Jan 18, 2002.

  1. barbourdg

    barbourdg Member

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    First off "GLAD WE WON", but did anybody else notice that Griffin had a hard time getting his teammates attention, when he was wide open? He was jumping up and down, and still Terrence Morris or somebody else were receiving the ball in the 2nd half.

    He only took 11 shots tonight. I would like to see him shot 15+ shots a night.
     
  2. Jeff

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    I think this is true and I was critical of some of the non-passes but I also think Griffin could get more shots if he dove to the basket more often. The more he goes to the hoop, the more his teammates will find him.
     
  3. Lil Francis

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    It seems that KT refuses to pass to Eddie. There were atleast 3times Eddie was wide open and Kenny looked right at him but drove it in the paint and 3 Celtics were waiting on him. I guess he wants to keep his job.
     
  4. JayZ750

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    I noticed tonight moreso than in any of the last few games that Eddie would set the high-pick, and do a combo of different role-outs, often ending up cutting to the basket (like that slick fade-away that was the "delivery of the game"). I hope he continues to move like this without the ball and Steve gets used to it.

    It should be obvious that Steve loves to pass the ball almost as much as shoot it. KT doesnt pass to anyone once he starts dribbling towards the hole, especially Eddie.

    BTW, I think TMo played real well tonight and deserved a lot of the passes that were coming his way. If we see continued play like this from him, he will turn out to be a solid 6th-8th man type player of the bench in this league in the future.
     
  5. BigM

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    i was going to start a thread bout this, i was yelling half the game about them swinging the ball to eddie. i love kenny thomas but the absolute only time he'll pass it to eg is if there is a man right up on him. if eddie has a chance at making the shot, kenny aint giving it to him. i hope it's not kenny trying to keep his job because it's bad for the team. on the other hand eddie will consitently feed the ball into kenny in the post.
     
  6. RocketKid

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    Oh my goodness, FINALLY someone other than me notices this. I went in the chatroom and said this, but people disagreed. :confused: KT not only refuses to pass to Eddie, he refuses to pass PERIOD. Honestly, I don't like KT....at all. I think he doesn't want to lose his starting spot so he's depriving EG of his shots. I don't know, just a thought.
     
  7. Lil Francis

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    Yeah I agree. People always say how Mobley is a ballhog but KT can't put the ball in the bucket like Cuttino. I think KT is the biggest ballhog on the team. Its hard to win if you are not gonna pass to certain people because you are afraid to lose you job. Sure its hard to deal with a teenager being better than you but just face it.
     
  8. Jerry36

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    In a way it seems like there trying to ignore this kid somewhat. They played a good game tonight. Defensively they still got a long way to go. When Griffin is open get him the ball. That will take a lot of pressure off the guards. The defense have to respect the kid.
     
  9. Lil Francis

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    Man when Griffin learns how to dribble the NBA had better watch out. He's like Mutombo,Duncan, and Garnett all wrapped in one.
     
  10. MattsayzIstillbelieve!!!

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    Just add Steve Smith's 3 point stroke this very year and you are close. Physically I really see him as the same in the future as Wallace. But his talent is slightly better as well as skill and attitude. Fact is he's just a baller. One might forsee him being most naturally a 4 but at the 3 or the 5 he would dominate just as well. I think we got the better of the deal with NJ what about u?
     
  11. ROXRAN

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    Definitely!

    Kenny did pass a couple times to EG, but you know Thomas is scared~...well at least thinking about the future and how he could get squeezed with EG getting over...
     
  12. Lil Francis

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    The Nets should have gotten 7draft picks in that deal instead of 3:D
     
  13. Timing

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    KT rant coming...

    It turns my stomach to read some of this stuff about Kenny Thomas. This guy is a total team player. He hustles his ass off, he doesn't complain about his role, and he actually tries to play defense unlike 75% of the team. Saying that he's a ballhog is a joke. KT isn't a ballhandling guard and he plays on a team with guys named Moochie and Cuttino, the all-time ballhog dribbling kings in Rockets history. KT is consistently improving his body and his game so it's horrible to see people dogging him out with puzzling comments about selfish play.

    I don't think some of you realize how valuable this guy is. He's about the 4th wheel on this team as far as offensive options are concerned and he's still putting up 14pts/game and shooting 48% which makes Mobley look blind at his 41% which as someone expertly pointed out the other day, "40% ain't that bad". Kenny Thomas is one of the things that's right about this team, not what's wrong with it.
     
  14. DCkid

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    I agree! Kenny's has been a very pleasant surprise this season, and he has more heart than anyone else on the team. Just look how hard he worked in the offseason to get in the shape he's in. And I hate to break it to some of you but he's damn good!. If I'm not mistaken the two games before this he went 9 of 13 for 20 points and 8 rebounds in both games. He causes matchup problems for almost every team, because the guy guarding him is either too slow or too weak to stop him. Its a little presumptuous to just say, "oh, he's worried about losing his job so he's not passing to Eddie." I don't buy that for a second. That's jumping to conclusions. Some people are just so high on Eddie right now they completely ignore the solid play KT has provided all season long. And for goodness sakes, Kenny's been twice as consistent as Mobley has. Not to mention KT is the only player the Rockets have right now who has any sort of inside power moves. Its nice to have one player with that dimension to their game. Oh yeah, and at least Kenny has improved his game this season, which is more than I can say for Francis and Mobley. I don't even think either of those two guys are playing as good as they did last season.

    Basically, all I'm trying to say is "Leave Kenny Alone!"

    :)
     
  15. RocketKid

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    I don't think anyone is denying that KT hustles his ass off every night. It's just that he - won't - pass - the - ball, particularly to Griffin. I am almost certain he makes an effort to keep it out of EG's hands. There had to have been at least 5 plays where Eddie was waving his arms at the 3pt line wide open while Kenny was well-guarded in the post. KT looked at him and just looked away. Another play, KT was at the 3pt line and eddie was cutting right in front of his eyes. KT saw him and passed it off to someone else. I swear, if Griffin got the ball everytime he was open at the 3pt line, he would've had 40 points tonight. So I think the team, not just Kenny, needs to do a better job of getting EG at the 3pt line. He's proven time and time and time and time again that he can nail that shot consistently.
     
  16. BigM

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    timing- i definitely see kt as a very undervalued part of our team. i'm a big fan of the way he hustles. i don't think he is a selfish ballplayer i just think he specifically chooses not to pass to griffin. i have seen him far too many times look eddie off to think otherwise.
     
  17. Flying_4_ever

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    It's strange that a lot of people on here are bringing up the fact that they have seen KT refuse to pass to EG, because I've been noticing this also. Ever since Kenny got all pissed because he thought Eddie was gonna take his spot he seems to be pissed at Eddie. Ive never even seen him congratulate him after hitting a big shot. We probably sound like a bunch of paranoid freaks but I really think KT is kinda pissed off at Eddie cause he sees him as a threat.
     
  18. RocketKid

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    Exactly Flying_4_ever. So what is all this talk about him being a "team player?" Yes, he hustles, but doesn't pass. If you ask me, I believe passing is a requirement of being a "team player." On top of that, he is quite possibly angry just because he might lose his starting job to a kid who very well deserves it, and refuses to pass to him. Some team player he is. :rolleyes:
     
  19. gr8-1

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    Observing KT on the offensive end this year, he has as many moves as anyone PF I've seen this year. Very quick. But, he doesn't finish strong and he's very selfish. And he's short.

    It was also acknowledged that one of the reasons taht Eddie didn't start was because KT would be upset and jealous. Rudy understood this.

    Thankfully, KT will be gone next year.
     
  20. RocketKid

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    One thing KT needs to understand - he's not a normal starter on this team! He's not a starter anywhere in this league! A great backup, nonetheless. He needs to accept his original role on this team of coming off the bench. Who the hell is he to whine and complain when someone beats him to the spot??? He was never an original starter! If starting Griffin over him truly benefits the team, then KT should shut his mouth if he was really a team player.
     

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