Some of you might not know who rob johnson is but the parallels are eerie. here's the link sports illustrated
Funny how the article never mentions the parallels between Matt Schaub and Brett Farve. Hell, Favre was even the backup on the same team Schaub was. Using the same "logic" the author uses, I guess no team should ever draft a QB in the first round again. After all, he might end up being the next Ryan Leaf....
this is kind of funny with all the "Atlanta Falcons will forever regret trading Schaub" stories that have been cropping up since Vick has been indicted
honestly, if you had to make a bet, which do you think is more likely. for every bret farve, there are tons of brad johnsons. also, just a note, I think first round draft failures of qbs are a lot higher than you probably would expect.
So that's where this discussion originated. I'd been hearing this discussed up here in JerryLand and was confused as to where this came from and why it was started. The cowsheep up here never let an opportunity pass if it's a chance to bash the Texans. Yes the parallels are there but the key difference is that Schaub is far more motivated to succeed. Johnson's attitude toward competition was a lot like David Carr's in that respect and that's what ultimately did him in at Buffalo.
honestly, I understand you guys' willingness to protect the home team, that's all fine and good, but the texans have to earn positive articles.
Ima, what else are they going to say? Schaub does not have a track record established yet so all that's left is speculation about how he'll perform. The stakes for Schaub & Kubiak could not be any higher because Schaub's performance will go a long way to moving this franchise past the events of 2006. Because of that, I'd hold off on the Brett Farve comparisions for now.
LOL, believe me, I'm not comparing him to Brett Favre... Hell, I've never even seen the guy play, to be honest. My point is that, hypothetically, he could VERY WELL end up being the next ROB Johnson. But, hypothetically, he could also end up being the next Steve Young. I don't disagree with the article. I just don't know what the point of it is. Maybe I'm a little biased, but still.....
I don't think the writer was trying to make any specific point per se, merely pointing out the similarities between the two QB situations. Actually, Schaub probably won't be the problem if the offense falters - that blame will probably go to the OL which is still what I'd describe as less than stellar.
ok, that's rwice now you've referenced "brad johnson" in a negative light - do you mean rob? because i would've been thrilled if carr had turned out as good as brad johnson (2 pro bowls, a super bowl ring and 12-15 years of above average play) and would hope the same for schaub. as for the article itself - it has merit, until schaub proves it doesn't - they gave away two day 1 picks and a large contract for the guy.
yea well i think there is at least one other team dying to have matt shaub right about now. the falcons, i bet they dont think all those picks were worth it now.
young really isn't an apt comparison; he wasn't a back-up when the niners dealt for him and had been a highly sought-after prospect in college - he would have been a top overall pick had he not first gone to the usfl. favre really isn't apt, either, imo - the packers did give up a 1st round pick for him (favre had been a 2nd round pick the year before), but they didn't sign him to the type of potentially crippling deal that johnson and schaub signed. the texans gave up a lot for schaub - they swapped first round picks, gave up with will likely be two top 40 picks and handed him a ginormous contract. johnson's a pretty fair comparison, imo - it means nothing, but the similiarities do exist.
The contract he got still bugs me. Although i may think it's a bargain next year at this time. He should have at least played 1/2 a season for us before getting paid so much. I can understand why Shaub would want a fat contract 1st, especially with our offensive line. But would he really of refused to come here and start w/o a new contract? Players that threaten to hold out always end up caving in so they can get a paycheck. He was thinking he'd be backing up Vick again and not getting a single snap. At least playing for us he would be auditioning for every team? Tony Romo took Dallas to the playoffs and they still wouldn't even give him a contract extension because they want to see what he does this year. Shaub better work out or we're gonna look even more stupid than this franchise already does.
