Matrix: Reloaded (****SPOILERS****)

SPOILER!

You will die alone.

--Triumph the Insult Comic Dog

There isn't really anything badass to spoil. SPOILER Um...the Oracle is a computer program...that was pretty wild. SPOILER

That's pretty much it for me. And the whole architect thing was interesting.

 

Yeah, and the idea that the whole 'Fall of Zion' thing had happened so many times was wild...

 

so all the other neo's chose the other door right? he is the first to let everyone die, go save her, and just try to actually fight back. the whole architect thing was pretty cool, saying neo was planned and that everything is going according to plan.

also, did the architect blow up when neo came flying out (which was awesome when all the windows shattered and cars were flying as he flew by so fast)? or was that just a huge explosion not affecting the architect.

also, did anyone else call neo having his matrix powers in the real world at the end there. it was weird b/c they had been in the matrix for so long, when they got back, i was like "oh yeah, they can't really escape, they can only do what humans do now." then it hit me that neo would still have his powers. one of the few things i've ever thought of before it happened in a movie. i can't figure movies out for crap usually.


one final thing to show why i can't figure them out, Agent smith captured an actual human? maybe i saw it and don't realize it or maybe i'm just that stupid. what exactly did he do and who did he capture?

 

Well the whole Agent Smith thing is kinda strange. The best thing I can come up with is that the Matrix persona is nothing more that an image created by your brain and interpreted by a computer. Therefore, it is nothing more than a program and susceptible to viruses like Smith apparently is now. When that image is incorporated back into the "real world", the copy of Agent Smith is taken to the brain and becomes kind of a computer virus in a biological entity. Since the brain's processes are carried out by electrical impulse, Smith can survive in the brain and eventually take over the impulses.

Of course, the Brothers could just say that at birth the implants given to all the people in the Matrix include some sort of chip that gets stuck in the brain and oversees things (some sort of system regulator). Smith then has a comfy little place to set up a base of operations and take control.

I don't know, it's the best I can do. I'm sure the Brothers will have some sort of plausible explanation.

BTW: that kid is annoying as hell but will probably end up getting found in some rubble and carted along by the crew, only to play an important part in the end.

The trailer for Revolutions plays out to be the "let's have a huge battle" movie in both the Matrix and in real life, including those sentry robots that look like the love child of ED-209 from Robocop and the cargo hauler from Aliens. Special emphasis is placed on what looks to be the final showdown between Smith and Neo on an 2 lane street in the middle of a downpour with hundreds of Smiths looking on from the sides of the road. All in all looks like the Brothers have decided to screw the plot and go for the big explosions, which is fine by me.

 

that french dude's chick sure was a slut. I didn't really understand wtf she was doing.

 

Looks like she basically sold him out because he couldn't keep his pants on. He was apparently using programs he wrote to get women all hot and bothered, then he'd swoop in for the kill. She got tired of it and wanted revenge. Hell hath no fury, etc. etc...

 

Dont cap on my girl. I am offically in love with Monica Bellucci.

Can someone explain to me the part where the architect was explainning something like he had start over again and had to take 33 people with him 17 male/16 female or something like that. Didnt understand the whole thing. Niabe is still alive correct? The didnt show her at the end of the movie and wasnt in the Revoloutions trailer.

 

I'm reading here that you have to play the game to find out what happens to Niobe. What a huge ripoff.

 

Here's my interpretation (disclaimer- I am stupid, so I'm probably wrong):

The current Matrix that runs on human energy was designed by the Oracle program lady whatever. It worked because it differed from the other Matrices by offering the human minds the ability to choose. It gets kind of vague here for me. Anyhow, 99.9% of humans are content in choosing to go on with normal life and not seek out The Truth, kind of a philosophical thing I suppose. Those 0.1% who choose truth, discover reality and have become the residents of Zion. The inherent flaw in the current Matrix is the 0.1%, and eventually gets destroyed by the cyborg machines already done 6 times over, but the people must exist in a controlled number, I suppose, because it is inherent to the Matrix set up.

Neo is some anomoly, I don't think created by the architect, but manipulated by him to control those of Zion, in a way. That's where the last seen comes in when instead of choosing to play same role as his predecessors, Neo, the current anomoly with superhuman powers within the Matrix decides to follow "emotion and love" and save Trinity, something that his predecessors did not feel.

The coolest thing was when Neo stopped the drones in the real world. I didn't see it coming until it was obvious. I thought it was great.

Again, I am stupid, so I'm probably pretty far off on my explanations...take my opinions for what they are worth.

 

Well, here's my thoughts about the ending itself. I'm cutting and pasting from another post of mine somewhere else because my brain and fingers will go numb trying to put this another way

Disclaimer: all thoughts are my own, be kind .



The Architect told Neo that this version of The Matrix was as close to perfect as he and The Oracle could create it. Given a choice, 99% of the population would gladly stay in it. However, that 1% "anomally" has to be accounted for, otherwise that 1% would eventually spread into the rest, eventually creating a majority. At that point, the Matrix itself would become unstable. So, to get the 1% out of the way, the machines created Zion for them to "escape" to. Then the machines created the Prophecy, giving the 1% someone to follow (aka, the One). This One would be endowed by the Matrix with the abilities Neo has, thereby fulfilling the Prophecy.

However, once the 1% becomes too big for the machines to control, they have to be culled. However, Zion has to still exist in some form for the continual 1% of the population to go to (sort of a holding pen). So, the One is told that Zion will be destroyed and that it is up to them to choose who will rebuild the society (total of 8 men, 16 women. Nice odds). The rest are killed off in the name of efficiency. The 5 Ones before Neo all chose to give up hope and exit out the door to the Source, thereby saving the remnant. Neo chose to reenter the Matrix, and keep hope alive that the machines themselves could be destroyed. When that happened his power over the Matrix's system became tangible in the "real" world, resulting in the EMP'd Sentinels. However, his body wasn't used to the shock, and he went into the coma.

 

My take on the whole issue, as I mentioned in another thread, is that there are two matrixes. An inner matrix, the one we all know, and an outer matrix, the one were Zion and the decimated earth resides in.

The dual matrix design was created to create a false sense of revolution for the humans. So even though they think they are free (Zion), they really are still trapped within a (outer) matrix.

This would account for Agent Smith's ability to survive in the rebel’s body in the "real" world. It also would explain Neo's ability to stop the squigglies. Neo 's gift is that he can "see" and manipulate code and he is only limited by the rules in his mind (as explained in the first movie). Him sensing and stopping the squigglies is just another step in breaking those rules.

Every time "the one" gets back to the source, he chooses the salvation of Zion, and the outer matrix would reset and start over. I don’t think that the machines actually physically drilled into the earth on 6 different occasions to destroy the humans.

I donno, am I making sense? I'm confusing myself...

 

That's how I saw it also, but my question would be: why would the Architect even show give Neo that option? Why show him what is happening to Trinity?

 

One thing that I found pretty interesting is this. Ultimately, the machines really wanted Neo to make it to that final room so he could make the choice. Certainly it seemed like they were trying to stop him as he went, but they all knew he would end up getting there and they wanted him to choose the door to The Source. Thinking back, the one person that pushed Neo to go talk to the Architect more than anyone was The Oracle. Could The Oracle have really been on the robots side all along?

 

Raven, I'm starting to believe maybe the oracle is on the machine's sides. Shocking to say the least.

 

The effect with all the Neos on the monitors was great.

I kept expecting the Keymaker to open a can of whoop ass. He should've thrown the keys like shurikens.

 

For those of you that stayed for the trailer at the end, wasn't the Oracle's bodyguard helping Neo in one of the scenes?

 

Yeha, what was all those tv monitors about? Were they different Neo's?