Duke is like the old Boston Celtics Maryland was kicking that ass then HERE COMES THE REFS . . . TO THE RESCUE It is official to me. . . DUKE IS OVERRATED COACH K is Overrated Rocket River I just hate injustice and politics in Sports ------------------
THANK YOU!!! It all started with that BS charge on Morris when Maryland was up 18 and about to be up 20 in the 1st half. Duke just slid right under him at the last minute and got the charge. A few seconds later, its a 13 point game, and Duke is back in it. And next to the Francis call against the Kings, that Baxter foul with 2:45 left was the worst I've ever seen in my life. He had the ball, posted up like any other player, and there was a touch of contact between him and Boozer. Any other time this happens its a defensive foul or no call, easy. But they blew the whistle, and since both had 4 fouls, it was either foul out Baxter or foul out Boozer who had been carrying Duke. Easiest call that ref had ever made it looked like. Maryland had this game... and like you said, the refs came to the rescue. I'm not a big Arizona or Duke fan, but I definitely have a strong interest Monday night now. Anything to knock out the Blue Devils. ------------------ "We're not settling for just getting in the playoffs." "We want a higher seed. There's no doubt. We expect to get in."-- Steve Francis President of the Mo Taylor and Jason Collier fan club! Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com
Maryland placing their heads up their posterior when they got up by 20 didn't help their cause any either. ------------------ Nuggets4 Please help us get Dan Issel fired!!! Save The Nuggets!!! Sign The Petition!!!
The officiating was horrendous against both sides tonight. Steve Blake kicking Duhon when he was still down should have been a T and an ejection, no questions asked. ------------------ The Badministrator
Huh? When did this happen? Are you talking about when both went down at the end of the game? If I missed it I'm sorry, but I didn't see him kick Duhon or anyone... ------------------ "We're not settling for just getting in the playoffs." "We want a higher seed. There's no doubt. We expect to get in."-- Steve Francis President of the Mo Taylor and Jason Collier fan club! Draftsource.net ClutchTown.com
Blake didnt kick nobody. The reason Maryland lost was because they are the worse team. It didnt have anything to do with the officials. If you want to see a game where the officials decide go back to the 4th quarter of game 7 in the Western Conference finals. Maryland just plain blew this lead. ------------------
Rocket River, Are you a poet? I have been meaning to ask you that for some time now. You seem to break your sentences up in different ways. ------------------ I am an invisible man. [This message has been edited by kbm (edited March 31, 2001).]
What annoyed me about this game was the announcer (I think it was billy packer). every time he said referred to maryland, he said "maryland" but every time he referred to duke, it wasn't just 'duke' it was 'duke university.' what was that about? plus, whenever maryland made a good play, he seemed to dismiss it, but was on every great play (or even just decent play) made by anyone for duke. could he have been any more obviously biased? ------------------
It is fairly obvious that Duke played better than Maryland in crunch time after the score had been tied. However, you have to look at how Duke got back in it. So many fouls called on Maryland off the ball, getting Duke into double bonus early and often. Any close call always went Duke's way (see Baxter's block on Williams). The announcers say, "boy, Duke sure is good at getting to the line." Well no crap! They get all the ticky tack calls that gets them into bonus! Whenever Williams penetrates he throws himself into the nearest defender and yells. Automatic foul. Yeah, Maryland lost some of its intensity, but the refs had a part in taking some of the wind out of their sails. The refs were giving Duke the regular season calls, like touch fouls. They looked just like the Jazz, flopping their way to the line. Baxter was rebounding great, so he had to be removed. His fifth foul was called for reaching back a little while he was posting up. JUST PATHETIC. I admit Duke dominated at the end, but it is much easier to do that when the opposing best players have fouled out. ------------------ Hakeem, Hasaw, Haconquered.
They want to make Williams a star. You're right, he just threw himself into the defender because he couldn't hit a thing from the outside tonight. Blake kicked Duhon's leg away because he was annoyed by the fact it was on him for so long. He didn't kick him that hard either. If he had known Duhon might have had a discussion, I doubt he would have done the same thing. Duke certainly played well enough to win, but many bad calls against Maryland that helped them didn't hurt either. ------------------
The refereeing sucked allaround, not just in favor of Dook. The call on Dunleavey as he stuffed Baxter, who should be embarassed after being stuffed by a stick man, was just an example that bad calls go both ways. Dook was just more aggressive late in the game, which is why they got to the line more. Maryland sat back and played complacent while Dook attacked the basket and went hard after the rebound. You don't get to the line shooting jumpers all the time. Referees tend to reward the team that is more aggressive, fair or not. Also, what took so damn long for Maryland to go after Boozer. He had four fouls for a long time, and was killing them on the other end, before Maryland went after him. That was when Baxter fouled out, which I will agree was a terrible call. Maryland made too many mistakes to lay this one at the feet of the refs. ------------------ Founder and President of the Houston Homers Club(HHC) - Are you a homer? Join now! The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
keeley, I don't recall Blake kicking Duhon either. What I think happened is that Blake declared that he wanted Duhon to get off his leg (I believe that's what the announcer said). But I agree that the game was very poorly officiated. I got upset when they called that 5th foul on Baxter....that should have been a no-call without a doubt. But despite the bad officiating Duke was clearly the aggressor and the better team in the second half, and they deserved the win. I predict that Arizona will beat Duke in the championship game. Aside from Battier, I'm not a big fan of the Blue Devils. ------------------
SFR - I noticed that too. I wonder why Duke got afforded the privilege of being called "Duke University", while Packer didn't call Maryland "the University of Maryland". It seemed odd. With regards to the Duhon - Blake incident, Blake was trying to get up. As they were both tangled on the floor, and Duhon was motionless, Blake kicked Duhon to get his legs free. I was watching the game with people who don't by any means like Duke, and they saw it too. Giving Blake the benefit of the doubt, you could say that it happened in the heat of the moment. ------------------ The Badministrator
He didn't see his face,and was unaware Duhon was down for the count at the time. I understand where Blake was coming from. If you watched the game closely, Blake and Duhon were talking a little trash as well, which could further explain Blake's annoyance by Duhon's leg being on him. ------------------
Tonite we see if Arizona gets Screwed likewise so battier can make a clean sweep of all honors Rocket River ------------------
Guys, the officiating just sucked all-round. What about that HORRIBLE call on Dunleavy? He had an absolutely clean block, yet they called a foul. How do you explain the fact that Maryland only accumulated 3 more fouls than Duke... and had fewer before they had to foul at the end? And Maryland plays MORE PHYSICALLY than Duke. You'd expect the differential to be larger than that. Duke won that game because maryland turned the ball over 21 times to Duke's 7. And because Maryland shot 40% from the field. You're not going to win many games w/those #'s. ------------------ Boston College - Big East -East Division Regular Season Champs Worst to First in 2001!
I am with the "the officiating sucked for both sides" group on this one. Terrible! Maryland just flat out LOST a 20 point margin and the game. The officiating was not bad enough to swing that type of margin the other way. ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
Maybe it was made up by the battier Mugging that was called a Jump ball when duke was making their run . . . it would have been I think #4 on Bats Rocket River Not really a Maryland fan . . .but I hate injustice ------------------
Rocket River: Do you professionally ignore points you can't counter? I make a post giving several reasons that the game was fair, you counter one, then assume you've done your job. Look at the statistics. Maryland played MORE physically than Duke and received fewer fouls prior to the end. Conspiracy theories are nearly always WRONG. Man really did land on the moon, Elvis is realy dead, and yes, Duke won fair and square. ------------------ Boston College - Big East -East Division Regular Season Champs Worst to First in 2001!
no not at all. What I watch I did not like. you admit to the point that Agression and Mo contribute to the way refs call things I do not think that is fair in *any* instance . . . . I felt [OPINION] that Duke got more of the calls . . esp during their 'comeback' you on the other did not think in this particular way you quote the dunleavy foul as a F*CT which in reality it was a Opinion Rocket River These are ALL opinions or mostly ------------------
