He's quite a good player....small....but intelligent. Was he drafted in the 2nd round of this year's draft or was he drafted in 1999? And was a rookie this season...
Ginobili has determination...doesn't he, with a nice dose of cockiness and athleticism. I'd like to see him drill his shots more consistently, though. Not sure if he'll ever be regarded as more than an average shooter, but he does bring more to the game. Hopefully, the threes in this first game will continue. Anyone want to compare him to Battier and Posey? I think his passing is special. His defense is risky, and I'm not so sure how well that works without Duncan/Robinson behind him. I like Battier and Posey staying in front of their guys over a reacher (albeit a smart and quick reacher). So, who has more intangibles...Mr Intangible Battier, or Ginobili? He probably has more athleticism than Battier, but not as good as a shot. More intangibles than Posey, but about the same shot and less athleticism than Posey. Now, anyone want to compare him to Butler.
What I like most about him is his "energy" on the court. He is always in the passing lanes and always moving his feet and his hands. I like how he goes to the basket agressively! Make the defense react to you in stead of reacting to the defense. I personally think the best way to attack a big man like shaq is have Parker, Ginobili and Claxton continue to attack the basket and force Shaq to foul these guys and get himself in foul trouble. Manu's quickness is impressive. I was really impressed with that Duncan handoff pass Manu took and went under the rim and dunked the ball. Such explosion! He is a nice asset for San Antonio. A nice "energy" player off the bench.
Ginobili is not really a "Shooter". He never was in Europe. He has a nice touch for the most part but is mostly a scorer on the move, in the fastbreak, and hits the clutch spot up shots. Manu sees the passing lanes very well, he is somewhat risky on the defensive end. But overall I would say he is a pretty good perimeter defender cause he has good quickness and very fast hands. He might need to add some size to be a better post defender, but because of his quick hands he is not that bad even in the post defensively. But I anticipated that this season Manu would be a very nice energy player at the least, and he has provided that for the Spurs. I figured he would be a starter, but the ankle injury slowed him up and evetually he was best suited for the 7th man role--and was probably one of the best second guys off the bench in the league. He had a pretty good last three months in the regular season--he still needs to take open threes and hit them more regularly, but he has shown a clutch/confidence element to his game--it may take a year before he realizes his potential in this league--but right now he is a VERY important piece to the Spurs Playoff Run.
Oh no you didn't. Oh no you didn't! OH NO YOU DIDN'T! I know you didn't just say Ginobili is more athletic than a black man! HE AIN'T GOT NO HOPS! HE AIN'T GOT NO HOPS! HE AIN'T GOT NO HOPS! -Calvin Murphy
HP, Remember the days when you thought Gino wouldn't amount to much? http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43081 PS - That thread was one of the better BBS discussions on basic basketball.
did Calvin really say that...hehe. i'm wanting to say he has the building blocks of Oscar Torres (speed, athleticism), but is more under control than Oscar (if it is possible to say Gino is more under control than anyone other than Madsen...lol). Gino's high energy is with a purpose, and his passing does pop your eyes out on occassion. He's a player; Oscar is not. As a starter, he might blossom enough for Popovich to actually start designing things for him. Right now, Popovich is remaining ultra conservative on changing anything, so it looks like Gino is creating his spectacular plays out of his own design. codell, ummm...I never said Gino sucked. Is that what you are implying. My scouting of his first game proved mixed results over the season. Some was on target, others was unfair based on the injury. Did you read the thread? First thing I said to CriscoKidd, who's scouting I respect a lot, is this: <blockquote><hr> I said, "<i>Gino is no star. That's all I can really say at this point. He also cannot be described as someone looking to be a shooter.</I>"<hr></blockquote> Crisco and I's early takes on Gino was mainly on using the WC to measure him against ROY candidates....It's no different than people being critical of any hyped player...Dunleavy, Williams, Butler, Gooden...etc. I also dismissed his passing, which was based on the WC. That was wrong. I also said his defense was suspect. I always looks at positioning. That is questionable. I certainly gave him a bad review not knowing about the ankle injury. I'll take a bad rap on that, too. What I saw was wild man on defense like Oscar Torres, and wouldn't keep Mobley in front of him. Popovich has backed that review in saying he'd like him to play more positional defense. I still question his defensive tactics verses Posey/Butler/Battier. It's hard to measure how his risky defense is bouyed by the best defensive front court in the league. His passing was hyped, but they were right. His ability to drive is sound, but I'd say that is not much better than Posey. Overall, I never said he sucked, just overhyped from our look at him at the WC. ROY--really? Would you take Gino over Butler? What about Battier? Posey?
HP, I was not implying that you originally felt he sucked but rather, that you seem to have a much higher opinion of him since 1st seeing him play in the pre-season (i.e. I was somewhat giving you a compliment by pointing out that you are not as set in your ways and theories about players as some around here suggest). Next time, Ill add a second wink in there so you don't take it the wrong way.
Who says I'm not just being nice to Gino, merely based on superstition wanting him to beat the Lakers.
IMO, when he will become all he can be is when (if) the Spurs pick up Kidd. Those 2 plus Parker in the backcourt will provide the change in Spurs-style b-ball that the retirement of 50 requires. Steals, assists, breaks - and an interior presence; Basically a better passing, shorter range Mavericks squad with a backbone: could be very fun to watch
Emanuel Gino is a hustle player that makes things happen your way. That's the kind of player the Rockets need. Posey is a little bit like that, but he tries to score points to much.
Well Ginobili.....remind me of me. Ginobili is smaller and can't jump as high as Posey.....and can't dunk.....well actually he can....but not with style......but anyways....he makes up for his inability to jump high with his intelligence and hustle. And he is only an average shooter I agree. But much better than Posey. At least he is consistent. In a 1-on-1 game between him and Nachbar.....I think Nachbar would win. But the Spurs have developed and trained him very nicely...to play good with a team. I don't know what Boki's doing. Thanks MrSpur!
yep...the Rockets tend to leave their new young guys on the bench... Boki should be playing. I hate they way we draft him and dont let him see the light of day. poor guy, he could be a hell of a player. They rated him so high when they got him, well, why have we not seen him play then? I mean more than garbage mins.
